Is there to much censorship on C5

[KILLER74Z28]

Originally Posted by Mindz

Looks like I missed a bunch of conversation since I've been working all day. Most of the posts made by Moose and GTAHVIT have covered most of the points, although there is one thing I'd like to touch up on.




Please read this, posted over a week ago. It seems that the moderators aren't the only ones who miss a thread/post here and there...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...5&postcount=54

I'm still wondering how many of our great members have yet to read this thread...

CAMARO5.com RULES. Please read this before posting!

[Darth_Emma]

Just a suggestion, maybe the rules thread needs to be at the tippity top of the forums as the first line of the index page.

[nards444]

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

I'm pretty sure, I'm never going to change your mind about this site. And you have every right to your opinion.

There is no list of people who can and cant here... There are 40k members and thousands of new posts a day. We just simply cant get to all of them to police every single post.

Any one can post pics of their girlfriends/wives etc. as long as they don't break the rules in doing so...

Posts are edited, deleted or infractions are given for being rude, disrespectful or instigating. Trust me, if I could have it my way the ladies thread would be gone... we wouldn't allow any pics of scantly clad women here.

But I'm not the only one with input to what we allow so I got out voted.

There is no blacklist.

It's all subjective. and we aren't gonna change how we moderate. Unfortunately the only list we have are those that are happy with Camaro5 and those that are not... But who's on it is not up to us... And the list changes every minute of every day...

No excuses, we are not perfect. we make mistakes.

All I can say is, I'm sorry you aren't happy here. Luckily there are many other forums, and you don't have to settle for Camaro5.

FWIW.

I like the website its not favorite nor are all the people but its good entertainment and a good place to find things. And I have nothing against MODS. But Im not the only one that feels like there are rules for different people and if I could add names I would but I dont think I need to go that far. If there are going to be rules then everybody needs to abide by them, there shouldnt be some loose rules because somebody's so and so post a pic of their wife that others think is hot mainly old men and whatever, or somebody that just flat out posts a ton. I think there is to much censorship here you dont, which will always be a disagreemnt which is fine I respect your arguemnt. But everybody needs to be held to the same standard and somebody shouldnt be punished for not going with the politcal agenda of C5.

[liquidsmoke]

Originally Posted by nards444

I like the website its not favorite nor are all the people but its good entertainment and a good place to find things. And I have nothing against MODS. But Im not the only one that feels like there are rules for different people and if I could add names I would but I dont think I need to go that far. If there are going to be rules then everybody needs to abide by them, there shouldnt be some loose rules because somebody's so and so post a pic of their wife that others think is hot mainly old men and whatever, or somebody that just flat out posts a ton. I think there is to much censorship here you dont, which will always be a disagreemnt which is fine I respect your arguemnt. But everybody needs to be held to the same standard and somebody shouldnt be punished for not going with the politcal agenda of C5.

And I'll add, I know no matter what some people will get treated differently, that's life. But for the mods to admit we do not judge fairly seems counter productive.

I keep hearing people say, we can't be all things to all people. But it seems like that's exactly what this site is trying to be. Too much energy is being wasted on people who don't even own camaro's and not even old enough to legally drive.

How about a section that is only visible to those who can prove they own the car? If you don't own one, about to own one, or a vendor I really don't understand why you are even here. Go get some camaro wallpapers and find something better to do with your time. 14 year olds should not be on this site.
I wouldn't outright disallow them, but there is no benefit I can see to structure rules to cater to this crowd.
But that's just my personal opinion.

Also I have a question for whoever actually owns this site.

What is the purpose of this site?

Is it to celebrate the Camaro

Or is it to grow a huge user base and make money?


Just curious, nothing wrong with either answer.
But would maybe answer questions about motivation.

[Darth_Emma]

Personally, I prefer to be a member of an inclusive site rather than an exclusive site.

I asked a lot of questions before I got my Camaro and I thank those owners who answered them.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Personally, I prefer to be a member of an inclusive site rather than an exclusive site.

I asked a lot of questions before I got my Camaro and I thank those owners who answered them.

There may be several reasons why someone here does not have a Camaro. Does that mean we should not allow them to be here? The answer to me is obvious. If there are things here you disagree with or a thread you don't like, just don't go in and just browse what makes you comfortable. I don't understand why people would rather bitch about something rather than just ignore it and move on. The thread affects you in no personal way unless you let it.

[LolatheSlush]

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Personally, I prefer to be a member of an inclusive site rather than an exclusive site.

I asked a lot of questions before I got my Camaro and I thank those owners who answered them.

You hit the nail on the head... i actually found the site AFTER i got my car, but i see a lot of people who don't own one asking a lot of questions and i think its very informative. There should be no reason to exclude people.

[chevy 3]

This site is just great. I've met a ton of new friends and even rekindled some old friends. Thanks c5 mods for doing such a good job. I couldn't deal with not being able to post for 10 frigging days or scroll the new post. Noooooooo!!!!

[liquidsmoke]

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Personally, I prefer to be a member of an inclusive site rather than an exclusive site.

I asked a lot of questions before I got my Camaro and I thank those owners who answered them.

Well I'm not saying make the whole site exclusive. I said a section. But it's prob a bad idea in any case.
My idea isn't to limit the people who come here, but more like not overly cater to those who have less meaningful reasons to be here.
If your 14 and want to come here that's fine, but I don't want to see rules made because 14 year olds are here when they really don't have many reasons to be here.

More importantly I'm saying, don't make rules that primarily benefit people who don't even own the car or are too young to own any car at all.

Don't focus on one sentence and ignore all the ones before and after it.

[zebra]

wow... this has been entertaining

Originally Posted by Forearms

Yes, I understand this. However, people in power shouldn't be censoring based on whether or not they "like" the person.

i feel it's pretty safe to say i'm on most of the mods' "good list", but i've still had posts deleted & i've even been infracted for somebody quoting my post & turning it into a political discussion. the mods have a tough job to do & i commend them for handling all they do with the professionalism they do it with. there's plenty of times somebody's really needed a thrashing & they've restrained themselves & treated them with respectful admoishment instead of giving them what they deserved.

some things will fly under the radar - that's jus how it goes, butr overall, i'd say the mods do a great job. i'm on some other sites where you'd never get away with posting some of the stuff that goes on here. sites like that are the ones you can get on at work, home, or wherever & not have to worry who might walk by & see you on it. that's one of the goals of this website (as well as a couple others i'm on - and, as a result, the moderation is a little stricter). the sites that have free-for-all sections or lax-ruled babes threads are usually the ones that you can't access at work du to either network filters or the moral conscience of not wanting to let somebody see you on a particular thread. i commend Tran for how he's handled the administration of this site.

i can get my camaro fix pretty much wherever i want - and i ain't even got a camaro

[zebra]

Originally Posted by liquidsmoke

...More importantly I'm saying, don't make rules that primarily benefit people who don't even own the car or are too young to own any car at all...

remember - for the first 3.5yrs of this site's existence, nobody even had one of these...

it was a site for the people who wanted to get one at some point or another. i know 14yr-olds who want to buy a camaro. i know 50yr-olds who want to buy a camaro. they all came here to find out about a significant investment in their lives. once people started geting the cars, that was like finding an upper-classman who could give you the low-down on which teachers to hang around/classes to take. that's what this site is about - people who love this car getting together & sharing information/perspectives... whether they're buying the car tomorrow or two years from now. if we tend to shoot the breeze between site-related conversations, so be it. just remember... this site has rules that need to be followed

[buzzy56]

Sometimes I wonder if people proof read their post's prior to submitting?I do believe that if more people took the time to re-read prior to posting that they might reword , re-think or even cancel their posts.Yes I know sometimes this site is not fair and we are not all treated equally.But guess what school and work & life are that way also? Yea too bad is isn't .So I guess you just have to make the best of it & decide if its worth it too you to continue to participate or move on.I like to browse the site daily and quite often leave the site open on my laptop.I would hope that we would all use good judgment in the words and pictures that we use and post just as if our young children , grandchildren were in our household and might view the content here.First and most important this site is about the Camaro and anything else is secondary.If its pics of ladies you want then there are plenty of places that fill that need. Just maby sometimes individuals feel powerless in their own life's and when they go on line they have a tendency to exhibit their bully tendencies never really sure of their selfs.My father told me something quite often as a small child ,"life's not always fair so don't expect it ", & you know what that has always stayed with me.I don't need to be reminded of it.I understand it.

[wrbear]

My recent experience is that I'm telling an OP objectively that I use a leaf blower and some locally purchased micro fiber towels (no advertisement but a SAM brand..I don't own stock) to get my car cleaned and the next thing I know a vendor is "challenging" me with pictures and a "challenge".....WHAT IS THAT? So I move on , a week later I go back and find out someone complained about the posts around 10 posts after I left.......the post gets a warning? The admin... say everything is ok keep moving all is well...that's because I lost interest with this vendor and moved on….....what's that?

[liquidsmoke]

Originally Posted by zebra

remember - for the first 3.5yrs of this site's existence, nobody even had one of these...

it was a site for the people who wanted to get one at some point or another. i know 14yr-olds who want to buy a camaro. i know 50yr-olds who want to buy a camaro. they all came here to find out about a significant investment in their lives. once people started geting the cars, that was like finding an upper-classman who could give you the low-down on which teachers to hang around/classes to take. that's what this site is about - people who love this car getting together & sharing information/perspectives... whether they're buying the car tomorrow or two years from now. if we tend to shoot the breeze between site-related conversations, so be it. just remember... this site has rules that need to be followed

Remember when I said "if you don't own one, or about to own one" it was in the same sentence.

My gripe is about people who don't own one, don't want to own one, now or in the future, but yet they are still here and rules being made to appease them.

Now I don't care one way or the other about the rule about pics with chicks. Plenty of other sites that focus on that. What I don't want is to come here one day and finding out I can't even curse in a thread because the little ones are watching.