2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD

[2010-1SS-IBM]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

arguments slowly turning into ring time...once again. really?

And by arguments, you mean quarter mile times. Pot, kettle, etc...

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Ford has been at the Ring several times NEVER a time I mean they are loosing the sales war with Chevy they would not want any good media to help drive and steal sales from the ZL1, this all makes perfect sense.

so you think if GM were to do a survey, ZL1 owners will say they bought the ZL1 because of the ring time? Sales war now?

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

The reality is a pro driver better than 99.99 percent of us just ran the Shelby. He got a best of 11.81 @ 123. The GM engineers (NOT PRO) ran a best 11.9 with the ZL1. Some magazine drivers got 12.7 with the Shelby, just like some guys have gotten horrible times with ZL1. Nine times out of ten down the 1/4 mile I would have my money on Shelby, but its times are not out of this world by any means.

That Engineer is a pro as well. Double advantage?

[NoWRX]

Originally Posted by BATMAN!

Well I hope that ring time makes those of you who live by it happy because your going to see tail lights at the only track they will ever meet at.

Indeed. I find it rather amusing that those who quote 'ring times as if they're the gold standard have likely never even been on a track with turns.

I mean they are loosing the sales war with Chevy they would not want any good media to help drive and steal sales from the ZL1, this all makes perfect sense.

I'd be remissed to point out that the Ford boys used the same sorry excuse back in the late 90s when the Mustang GT was an absolute terd. Funny how things stay the same while changing at the same time.

"Our cars may be slower, but we sell a lot more of them!"

Honestly, you're drinking the kool-aid pretty hard if you refuse to accept the GT500 is quite a bit faster than the ZL1 - look at those traps.

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by 93TealCobra

I have a very stinking suspicion that the GT500 will be faster around most tracks, except for VIR. There's just something fishy about the ZL1 run there.

If Ford were to release the '13 GT500 Nurburgring times, all hell would break loose.

Nothing fishy about VIR. If anything the day they had conspired against the car. As for Ring times, unless there is a big gap, which I doubt I wouldn't expect Ford to release ring times. We would advise our clients against a "me too" claim. Let the ZL1 have the Ring.

[Paco]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

The Shelby is fast super fast, and it hooks up a lot better than the previous GT500s. They were even spinning the tires in 3rd gear, but its not the monster I thought it would be. Its faster than the ZL1, but not by much. I was drinking the HP Kool Aid and thought Evans would nail a 11.5 pass or even dare I say 10.XX. Not to say later on, its not possible to hit the 11.5 but I think that will be tops. The hero run for the Shelby 11.5 the hero run for the ZL1 11.7 or 11.8 my guess.

So you expected mid to low 11's right out of the gate. Well this is the forum that thought the ZL1 would run 11's right out of the gate so no surprise

[NoWRX]

Originally Posted by Paco

So you expected mid to low 11's right out of the gate. Well this is the forum that thought the ZL1 would run 11's right out of the gate so no surprise

No kidding. This is the first day that someone other than someone affiliated with Ford has driven the car. It's a bit premature to declare it a disappointment IMO, especially one car that's being repeatedly ragged out on a drag strip.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

arguments slowly turning into ring time...once again. really?

Well the ring time one turned into 1/4 mile runs. So what's the difference?

At least this is a VS thread so it kind of suits to talk about it all between these two find cars.

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by 2010-1SS-IBM

And by arguments, you mean quarter mile times. Pot, kettle, etc...

every week, it changes...

[vertcobra99]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

The Shelby is fast super fast, and it hooks up a lot better than the previous GT500s. They were even spinning the tires in 3rd gear, but its not the monster I thought it would be. Its faster than the ZL1, but not by much. I was drinking the HP Kool Aid and thought Evans would nail a 11.5 pass or even dare I say 10.XX. Not to say later on, its not possible to hit the 11.5 but I think that will be tops. The hero run for the Shelby 11.5 the hero run for the ZL1 11.7 or 11.8 my guess.

lol the car has been out for less then a day... I think you will see mid 11's on stock rubber no problem. and close to 10's if not 10's on DR's

Also the 11.9 run by GM pulled a 1.6x 60 foot time. If you don't think that wasn't on DR's... you are either drunk or have never been to a track

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

The times for the ZL1 (its first test) were all rubbish due to where they tested the car. That being said the corrected times (Ignition Video) were under 12 seconds. Hennesey got a 12.2 with the ZL1, and GM Engineers got a 11.9. A pro driver on a prepped drag track got a 11.8 with the Shelby and the Ford Engineers (observed) got a best of 12.06 @ 121. Again yes the Shelby is faster, but its not that serious. If Ford was soo sure they could bury the ZL1 why did they not bring one? Or they could have brought a Z06 if they could not find a ZL1??

Ford's ZL1 order was on a QC hold. Then they were bumped to a '13 car.

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by Paco

So you expected mid to low 11's right out of the gate. Well this is the forum that thought the ZL1 would run 11's right out of the gate so no surprise

I am sure the Mustangs they brought to the track were not fresh off the line? Now it may take customer's mustangs some time to get better and better, but these were most likely Ford Test Cars?

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

Ford's ZL1 order was on a QC hold. Then they were bumped to a '13 car.

[Synerbee]

some of you guys need to realize the Shelby is faster in the 1/4

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