2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD - Page 41

Stew · 05-18-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

The times for the ZL1 (its first test) were all rubbish due to where they tested the car. That being said the corrected times (Ignition Video) were under 12 seconds. Hennesey got a 12.2 with the ZL1, and GM Engineers got a 11.9. A pro driver on a prepped drag track got a 11.8 with the Shelby and the Ford Engineers (observed) got a best of 12.06 @ 121. Again yes the Shelby is faster, but its not that serious. If Ford was soo sure they could bury the ZL1 why did they not bring one? Or they could have brought a Z06 if they could not find a ZL1??

Possibly because they wanted to get their car out and not just swing their b@lls? I respect that they just brought GT500s to keep the focus on the car the day was setup for.

2ndCamaro79 · 05-18-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew

Possibly because they wanted to get their car out and not just swing their b@lls? I respect that they just brought GT500s to keep the focus on the car the day was setup for.

Then why bring in the pro driver, and why do it at a drag strip. C'mon there no ring times, they did not race a ZL1/Z06, and its all because Ford is so humble and modest

Stew · 05-18-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Then why bring in the pro driver, and why do it at a drag strip. C'mon there no ring times, they did not race a ZL1/Z06, and its all because Ford is so humble and modest

Evans ALWAYS does the driving for MM&FF

Paco · 05-18-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by newmoon

Where is anyone argueing these points? I think all in here have said the 500 is faster, really the SVT forum gang is in here fighting with themselves

11.8 is not 2 tenths faster than a 12.5

And sorry to disappoint but I am not in the "svt fourm gang"

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Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

The times for the ZL1 (its first test) were all rubbish due to where they tested the car. That being said the corrected times (Ignition Video) were under 12 seconds. Hennesey got a 12.2 with the ZL1, and GM Engineers got a 11.9. A pro driver on a prepped drag track got a 11.8 with the Shelby and the Ford Engineers (observed) got a best of 12.06 @ 121. Again yes the Shelby is faster, but its not that serious. If Ford was soo sure they could bury the ZL1 why did they not bring one? Or they could have brought a Z06 if they could not find a ZL1??

Cool lets "correct" GT500 times to. Yep so far a hot lap'd (for 2 hours straight) 11.8 at 123. Another fun fact for you, Fords main intent was not to bit*h slap the ZL1. That's a bi-product. The BOSS and GT500 were to close in performance.

I hope for everyone's sake here the GT500 is not faster around a track

ffrcobra_65 · 05-18-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Paco

11.8 is not 2 tenths faster than a 12.5

And sorry to disappoint but I am not in the "svt fourm gang"

Cool lets "correct" GT500 times to. Yep so far a hot lap'd (for 2 hours straight) 11.8 at 123. Another fun fact for you, Fords main intent was not to bit*h slap the ZL1. That's a bi-product. The BOSS and GT500 were to close in performance.

I hope for everyone's sake here the GT500 is not faster around a track

VIR next!

Paco · 05-18-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Then why bring in the pro driver, and why do it at a drag strip. C'mon there no ring times, they did not race a ZL1/Z06, and its all because Ford is so humble and modest

Well I don't see Ford releasing letters to future owners of the GT500 reassuring them the there car is the better car and "everything will be ok" Looks like they just started walking the walk

2ndCamaro79 · 05-18-2012, 01:42 PM

The Shelby is fast super fast, and it hooks up a lot better than the previous GT500s. They were even spinning the tires in 3rd gear, but its not the monster I thought it would be. Its faster than the ZL1, but not by much. I was drinking the HP Kool Aid and thought Evans would nail a 11.5 pass or even dare I say 10.XX. Not to say later on, its not possible to hit the 11.5 but I think that will be tops. The hero run for the Shelby 11.5 the hero run for the ZL1 11.7 or 11.8 my guess.

93TealCobra · 05-18-2012, 01:42 PM

I have a very stinking suspicion that the GT500 will be faster around most tracks, except for VIR. There's just something fishy about the ZL1 run there.

If Ford were to release the '13 GT500 Nurburgring times, all hell would break loose.

2ndCamaro79 · 05-18-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 93TealCobra

I have a very stinking suspicion that the GT500 will be faster around most tracks, except for VIR. There's just something fishy about the ZL1 run there.

If Ford were to release the '13 GT500 Nurburgring times, all hell would break loose.

Ford has been at the Ring several times NEVER a time

I mean they are loosing the sales war with Chevy they would not want any good media to help drive and steal sales from the ZL1, this all makes perfect sense.

2ndCamaro79 · 05-18-2012, 01:46 PM

Nissan released their Ring time (and the fact that it beat the 911 Turbo) a year ahead of its release .. stupid, show off Nissan. I wish GM and Nissan would take the high road like Ford

2010-1SS-IBM · 05-18-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 93TealCobra

I have a very stinking suspicion that the GT500 will be faster around most tracks, except for VIR. There's just something fishy about the ZL1 run there.

If Ford were to release the '13 GT500 Nurburgring times, all hell would break loose.

Lol, Ford guys. ZL1 times are "fishy", unreleased Ford times are presumed to be better, and gospel.

motorhead · 05-18-2012, 01:50 PM

Like I said before, the ring is a marketing tool that is meaningless to use as fact.

It's what is happening in the real word that makes the difference. I'm 100% sure though that a ZL1 will do just as well as a GT500 at going in town to get milk or out to dinner on a Friday night.

ffrcobra_65 · 05-18-2012, 01:51 PM

arguments slowly turning into ring time...once again.

really?

motorhead · 05-18-2012, 01:53 PM

Are 2,000 HP motors reliable? I know it realllllllllly sounds good.

View Poll Results: ZL1 or GT500, Which one would you get?
ZL1	5	35.71%
GT500	9	64.29%
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05-18-2012, 01:42 PM	#567
2ndCamaro79 Drives: 2014 V-Sport/ 2015 Escalade Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 939	The Shelby is fast super fast, and it hooks up a lot better than the previous GT500s. They were even spinning the tires in 3rd gear, but its not the monster I thought it would be. Its faster than the ZL1, but not by much. I was drinking the HP Kool Aid and thought Evans would nail a 11.5 pass or even dare I say 10.XX. Not to say later on, its not possible to hit the 11.5 but I think that will be tops. The hero run for the Shelby 11.5 the hero run for the ZL1 11.7 or 11.8 my guess.

05-18-2012, 01:42 PM	#568
93TealCobra Banned Drives: 1993 Mustang Cobra Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sweet Tea/Pecan Pie Posts: 29	I have a very stinking suspicion that the GT500 will be faster around most tracks, except for VIR. There's just something fishy about the ZL1 run there. If Ford were to release the '13 GT500 Nurburgring times, all hell would break loose.

05-18-2012, 01:46 PM	#570
2ndCamaro79 Drives: 2014 V-Sport/ 2015 Escalade Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 939	Nissan released their Ring time (and the fact that it beat the 911 Turbo) a year ahead of its release .. stupid, show off Nissan. I wish GM and Nissan would take the high road like Ford

05-18-2012, 01:50 PM	#572
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,849	Like I said before, the ring is a marketing tool that is meaningless to use as fact. It's what is happening in the real word that makes the difference. I'm 100% sure though that a ZL1 will do just as well as a GT500 at going in town to get milk or out to dinner on a Friday night.

05-18-2012, 01:51 PM	#573
ffrcobra_65 Account Suspended Drives: SuperCharged 2SS/RS IOM MN6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA Posts: 5,094	arguments slowly turning into ring time...once again. really?

05-18-2012, 01:53 PM	#574
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,849	Are 2,000 HP motors reliable? I know it realllllllllly sounds good.