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Old 01-14-2015, 11:32 AM   #29
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All that glass reminds me of a Pacer.......
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Old 01-14-2015, 11:55 AM   #30
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Get that baby in production!
Yeah and it'll look nothing like it does here!
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:15 PM   #31
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its looks production ready from the outside so I bet if this actually is a hit it will prolly be built.
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Old 01-14-2015, 03:36 PM   #32
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Yeah and it'll look nothing like it does here!
Why do you think that?
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Old 01-14-2015, 04:12 PM   #33
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Yeah and it'll look nothing like it does here!
Just like the production Camaro didn't look anything like the concept Camaro...

There will be differences probably, but more details or things needed to make it a design for ready for production.
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Old 01-14-2015, 04:28 PM   #34
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Just like the production Camaro didn't look anything like the concept Camaro...
Sarcasm? I'd say it was damn close.
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Sarcasm.

For those who don't like the name it's likely to change if it makes production.
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Old 01-15-2015, 12:32 AM   #37
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Why can't EV's look like regular cars? This ugly futuristic lunch box look has got to stop. It looks like honda wearing a ball gag.
Some do.

The EV version of the Jetta looks pretty good. They make EV versions of a lot of regular cars. They just cost more and have a smaller range.

I think Tesla tech in a decade+ will help match the range of gas. Cost will still be an issue.

On paper, the Chevy spark isn't that bad. 327 lb/ft of torque from a teeny car is pretty nice. How it does it, I dunno. Would I get one? At 82 mi range, no. Not for my lifestyle.
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Old 01-15-2015, 07:31 PM   #38
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meh.. not something I would want.. Leaf and i3 competitor for sure, but too small and too ugly for my taste, all three of them actually.

I want an EV that looks like a regular car, gets at least 200 - 250 mile range, which is what I get in my Camaro.

don't want a lunch box, don't want a bright colored POS that stands out like a blond at a brunette convention, and I surely don't want something that will crumble into a paper weight when it gets rear ended by the dumbass behind me texting in their 5,000 pound SUV.
Just so you know, you don't want to get hit in the rear in your Camaro by a 5,000 pound SUV either. Both will meet the same standards.

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Some do.

The EV version of the Jetta looks pretty good. They make EV versions of a lot of regular cars. They just cost more and have a smaller range.

I think Tesla tech in a decade+ will help match the range of gas. Cost will still be an issue.

On paper, the Chevy spark isn't that bad. 327 lb/ft of torque from a teeny car is pretty nice. How it does it, I dunno. Would I get one? At 82 mi range, no. Not for my lifestyle.
Keep in mind, Tesla isn't leading range because they have a technology no one else has. They have range because they pile battery capacity that no one else does.

The Volt has a 16 kWh battery. The base Tesla has 60 kWh battery for 200 mile range and an 85 kWh battery that get up to 270 miles. GM uses a very conservative approach to charging the Volt battery as well, only using a portion of it. It won't over charge or go below 30% charge (if I remember correctly). Bad things happen to batteries when you try to top them off and deplete them fully, so GM had 38 mile range on the current Volt using only a portion of the 16 kWh battery. The base Tesla has almost 4x the battery and the uplevel has over 5x the battery. Don't know if Tesla uses the same conservative charging strategy GM does or not. But simply putting 5.3x the battery in the Volt would get the Volt to 212 miles, give or take. It's just the size of the battery.
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