2015 Mustang to gain 200-300 pounds?

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by Q'smuscle

Oh, alright! You should come try some CTS's or ATS's! No need to stay on one side !

Believe me, I'm all about cross shopping. I just need a second contender to enter the fray. I just wish LMC would be a little quicker about getting their offering to market. I know there are others in that range; 3-series, Audi's A4, etc. However, I am a bit partial to buying domestic. Which is why I need LMC to offer a counterpoint to ATS.

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

They never said the GT would be 200 lbs lighter. They just said the new Mustang would weigh as much as 200 lbs less. I.E. the Eco boost option probably does weigh less. That's marketing for you, spin the info however you want.

Chief engineer said their target weight loss goal was 200lbs. I can get the link if you like. While saying "our target weight loss goal is 200lbs" is not officially setting in stone that he said IT WILL BE 200LBS lighter it would just be a huge kick to the nuts with him saying that and it ends up 300lbs heavier. I don't think any educated person thought that the new Mustang would be lighter trim for trim after seeing the dimensions.

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

I agree with it being bad for competition but it is way too late in the game for GM to be making changes to the weight. If they were going to make a more affordable platform with more weight the performance would suffer and I don't think they would be willing to do that. If the Mustang weights are true that would give GM a chance to really stick it to them.

I totally agree that it is now GM's battle to lose (if the rumor holds true)but I can promise you that if the new Mustang ended up at 3600lbs the new Camaro would be better than the Mustang ending up at 3900lbs.

Originally Posted by Muscle Car Memories

Ford's not gonna let it be slower because they are increasing the HP, my guess it will run about the same or possibly slightly better.

We know exactly what parts are going to be in the new motor so at best it will have 444HP. A 24HP gain is not going to overcome 300lbs + heavier rotating mass items like wheels, tires ,brakes, IRS, ect. Trust me it could be a disaster as far as acceleration performance goes.

In all seriousness can you imagine if the rumor does hold true? It would be a huge black eye for Ford fans considering all the fat pig flak the Camaro gets from them. However, I am a little skeptical of the rumor. Yes it was released by Steeda but I'm wondering if it was on purpose so that the real weight gain of 100-150lbs doesn't seem so bad. I just don't see Ford crucifying themselves with a 300lb weight gain.

[TheReaper]

Originally Posted by Q'smuscle

Uhhhhhhhhhhh .................. glasses? Camaros been leading since the 5th Gen came out! lmao ..... Show me how you came to that conclusion! This Guy!

I should have thrown in the word Performance.

[KMPrenger]

As usual, take it with a grain of salt.

That said, I still expect a weight gain....but not 2 - 3 hundred lbs.

If it was closer to 300 lbs that would be a huge black eye for Ford fans. But we all know how a well executed, but heavy chassis can perform (1LE, ZL1, Z/28 anyone?) so I still have no doubt that it handles well.

[Q'smuscle]

Originally Posted by TheReaper

I should have thrown in the word Performance.

Hahaha .... Yea, I thought that you meant in performance! But wanted to make sure!

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

Believe me, I'm all about cross shopping. I just need a second contender to enter the fray. I just wish LMC would be a little quicker about getting their offering to market. I know there are others in that range; 3-series, Audi's A4, etc. However, I am a bit partial to buying domestic. Which is why I need LMC to offer a counterpoint to ATS.

Come-on over, you know that you want too!

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

As usual, take it with a grain of salt.

That said, I still expect a weight gain....but not 2 - 3 hundred lbs.

If it was closer to 300 lbs that would be a huge black eye for Ford fans. But we all know how a well executed, but heavy chassis can perform (1LE, ZL1, Z/28 anyone?) so I still have no doubt that it handles well.

Don't tell mustang fans that! Because they want 0-60 performance , not handling!

[Stealthpanda]

As vague as it is, something-SOMEWHERE mentioned a power increase. On both models (3.7/5.0) to make up for the weight increase. But I don't remember if they said it was an increase right away, or a year or 2 after. Forget what website I read it on, fwiw anyway.
Thanks,
Jason

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by Stealthpanda

As vague as it is, something-SOMEWHERE mentioned a power increase. On both models (3.7/5.0) to make up for the weight increase. But I don't remember if they said it was an increase right away, or a year or 2 after. Forget what website I read it on, fwiw anyway.
Thanks,
Jason

I wouldn't be surprised if the 2016 or 2017 5.0 was direct injected with about 460HP but the 2015 Mustang GT will have no more than 444HP and that wouldn't be nearly enough to offset the weight of 200-300 lbs. 100lbs yeah but not the rumored bombshell of fat Larry hiding in your trunk.

[2010-1SS-IBM]

200-300 sounds extreme, but it's going to gain weight. As has been said, all the stuff they're adding to it has weight.

[Deki]

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

I have my Terminator to mod for power and racing duty if I so please. So my next purchase will be something to just enjoy, which is why I'm waiting to see what Lincoln does with S550. "MKR" might just fit the bill for what I will be in the market for.

You could have just stopped at "I have my Terminator"

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

We know exactly what parts are going to be in the new motor so at best it will have 444HP. A 24HP gain is not going to overcome 300lbs + heavier rotating mass items like wheels, tires ,brakes, IRS, ect. Trust me it could be a disaster as far as acceleration performance goes.

They were claiming it was faster then the Boss 302 around the track, so unless the track has pot holes at every corner, it should also make more power to offset the weight. I'm gonna guess at least 450hp on the S550.


I've been saying since they said it was going to lose 200 pounds that no way in hell that will happen. I was even more sure when they said wheelbase will stay the same. Unless they threw a ton of lightweight material at it and priced it as much as the new M4/M3, no chance of it being lighter then the S197. If it's gonna be that heavy, I would rather have a small block under the hood, as long as Chevy fixes the visibility and my head hitting the roof over bumps in the Camaro.

[big hammer]

that much extra weight isn't going to translate very well with the feminine powerband of the 5.0.

[2010SLVRBULIT]

..think Ford's trying to sell HP#s to overshadow the weight gain. In the end, statistics virtually the same as the previous year's model, albeit the aesthetics(and few mods)..

[1QwikZ28]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

I wouldn't be surprised if the 2016 or 2017 5.0 was direct injected with about 460HP but the 2015 Mustang GT will have no more than 444HP and that wouldn't be nearly enough to offset the weight of 200-300 lbs. 100lbs yeah but not the rumored bombshell of fat Larry hiding in your trunk.

I think it will have more than 444hp in 2015. Its getting all the internals of the roadrunner engine with better flowing heads, revised intake, and bigger cams. I would be shocked if it had less hp than the roadrunner engine.

[87GNX]

Originally Posted by big hammer

that much extra weight isn't going to translate very well with the feminine powerband of the 5.0.

the same feminine powerban that pushes a 3600 car into the 12's stock? Yeah you are not ignorant or anything...fwiw my 2011 camaro ss felt slower than my friends 2013 GT by quite abit.

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by 87GNX

the same feminine powerban that pushes a 3600 car into the 12's stock? Yeah you are not ignorant or anything...fwiw my 2011 camaro ss felt slower than my friends 2013 GT by quite abit.

yes the same feminine powerband. thanks for asking.