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Old 08-22-2012, 05:18 PM   #29
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mandatory manuals now please. Far less people who don't deserve to be driving will be on the road!
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:19 PM   #30
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One thing about hate about the driving system, here in the U.S. It should be a demand, to make sure all drivers know how to respond to situations like this, and what NOT to do - which is panic. That is main reason, why most get into accidents - both from being lazy and panic.

When you're train to get your pilot license, they do this exact training.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:51 PM   #31
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One thing about hate about the driving system, here in the U.S. It should be a demand, to make sure all drivers know how to respond to situations like this, and what NOT to do - which is panic. That is main reason, why most get into accidents - both from being lazy and panic.

When you're train to get your pilot license, they do this exact training.
Unfortunately many that think they are good drivers do things that are against all traffic laws but they still do it because they don't care anything about traffic laws or rules. Every time I go out I see at least a dozen examples of bad driving habits. You can have all the best instruction in the country but many people think that rules and laws don't apply to them. So emergency driving instructions will fall on deaf ears to the majority of drivers because they already consider themselves to be better than everyone else.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:47 PM   #32
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What is hilarious to me is that for all the laughing at the "moron" for not simply taking his key out of the ignition, you would think that people on a car forum would know you CANT take the key out of the ignition while the car is running. Try it yourself one time and get back to me as to who is so smart.

As for the emergency brake crowd. Take your car out to a deserted air strip. Give it WOT and maintain WOT then pull the ebrake and see if it will stop your car while in WOT.

The guy wasns't running from police, he called 911 because his car was a runaway train. He states that he tried changing gears to no effect.

You can see that even when he barrells into the emergency out of control vehicle lane, his car is barely slowed down. Have any of you ever hit one of these? Do you know how much speed you have to be carrying to simply not be dead stopped by one of these?

Let me get this straight. You think random dude, driving who WASN'T being persued by cops at first decides. Let me call 911, fake a problem with my car for 25 miles, hit a cop in the rear to finally stop, is faking it? As compared to simply something went wrong with his car.

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Old 08-22-2012, 09:26 PM   #33
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What is hilarious to me is that for all the laughing at the "moron" for not simply taking his key out of the ignition, you would think that people on a car forum would know you CANT take the key out of the ignition while the car is running. Try it yourself one time and get back to me as to who is so smart.

As for the emergency brake crowd. Take your car out to a deserted air strip. Give it WOT and maintain WOT then pull the ebrake and see if it will stop your car while in WOT.

The guy wasns't running from police, he called 911 because his car was a runaway train. He states that he tried changing gears to no effect.

You can see that even when he barrells into the emergency out of control vehicle lane, his car is barely slowed down. Have any of you ever hit one of these? Do you know how much speed you have to be carrying to simply not be dead stopped by one of these?

Let me get this straight. You think random dude, driving who WASN'T being persued by cops at first decides. Let me call 911, fake a problem with my car for 25 miles, hit a cop in the rear to finally stop, is faking it? As compared to simply something went wrong with his car.

Are we butt hurt because its a pontiac (GM) product?
Nobody said take the key out of the ignition. Everyone said to turn it OFF. Big difference and any car can be turned off while in motion just don't turn the key to the LOCK position.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:17 PM   #34
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Nobody said take the key out of the ignition. Everyone said to turn it OFF. Big difference and any car can be turned off while in motion just don't turn the key to the LOCK position.

Oh I get it.


If you listen to the police officer in the 911 call you hear him say. "Our cars are goverened to 100 mph and he's pulling away from us." So you think swerving around traffic at probably 110-120 mph, losing all power steering would be a good idea? Let me ask you this. Did he hurt anyone? Would he of if, while evading traffic he lost all power steering? Chances go way up. I'd say that he did the people around him a giant favor by not disengaging his power steering.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:23 PM   #35
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Oh I get it.


If you listen to the police officer in the 911 call you hear him say. "Our cars are goverened to 100 mph and he's pulling away from us." So you think swerving around traffic at probably 110-120 mph, losing all power steering would be a good idea? Let me ask you this. Did he hurt anyone? Would he of if, while evading traffic he lost all power steering? Chances go way up. I'd say that he did the people around him a giant favor by not disengaging his power steering.
It would be much less dangerous than driving 25 miles at over 100 mph. It's not that difficult to steer a car without the power steering, try it sometime in a safe area. Besides if he had done it as soon as he realized he it was still excelerating with his foot off the gas and on the brake then he would not have been going that fast. Like I said, just common sense.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:32 PM   #36
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It would be much less dangerous than driving 25 miles at over 100 mph. It's not that difficult to steer a car without the power steering, try it sometime in a safe area. Besides if he had done it as soon as he realized he it was still excelerating with his foot off the gas and on the brake then he would not have been going that fast. Like I said, just common sense.
Well common sense also tells you that you have to have the car in nuetral in order to turn the iginition off. Once again...if you listen to the officers and 911 dispatcher, the guy tried to change gears and it didn't work. If he couldn't put it in nuetral, then he can't turn the ignition off.

Also, no I don't think losing power steering at those speeds, as he was swerving around traffic would of been the best idea. Did you see the video where he barely missed a car as he went slamming into the emergency lane. No power steering in that situation and he doesn't clear that car. Instead he smashes into it.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:36 PM   #37
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Well common sense also tells you that you have to have the car in nuetral in order to turn the iginition off. Once again...if you listen to the officers and 911 dispatcher, the guy tried to change gears and it didn't work. If he couldn't put it in nuetral, then he can't turn the ignition off.

Also, no I don't think losing power steering at those speeds, as he was swerving around traffic would of been the best idea. Did you see the video where he barely missed a car as he went slamming into the emergency lane. No power steering in that situation and he doesn't clear that car. Instead he smashes into it.
Lol you can turn off the ignition ANYTIME! You don't have to have it in neutral. You do not know what you are talking about.

I had my aftermarket cruise control malfunction on a car one time and I couldn't slow down or disengage it at 70mph. I turned off the ignition and stopped on the side of the road. I had no trouble controlling or stopping the car. And this was on a Chevrolet. So I know if you act as soon as you discover the problem you can safely stop the vehicle.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:41 PM   #38
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No. It could have been one of those pontiacs built from the joint venture with GM and Toyota.
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Lol you can turn off the ignition ANYTIME! You don't have to have it in neutral. You do not know what you are talking about.
For this particular car, I might be wrong. What about cars with push button starters? No key to take out of the ignition?

Either way, the guy wasn't evading police. He did a damn fine job of not causing an accident or injuring other people. Even had the police aware of the situation who were able to block off further traffic.

Guy gets a huge thumbs up for me.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:09 AM   #40
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Am I the only one who doesn't buy this? The newscasters even seem to be making excuses. I don't see how this happens.
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:03 AM   #41
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Power steering is to help turn the wheels at slow speeds. At high speeds you need very little assistance to turn the wheel. I have driven without power steering and it isn't as crazy or difficult as you think. Plus, this whole issue would be moot if he had a stick shift. Just push the clutch in and drop to neutral.

If I were in this situation, my first reaction would be to turn the key to the OFF position. Then drop to neutral. No harm would ever come to me or my car or anyone else for that matter.
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What is hilarious to me is that for all the laughing at the "moron" for not simply taking his key out of the ignition, you would think that people on a car forum would know you CANT take the key out of the ignition while the car is running. Try it yourself one time and get back to me as to who is so smart.
Seriously? Who said "take it out?"
As for the emergency brake crowd. Take your car out to a deserted air strip. Give it WOT and maintain WOT then pull the ebrake and see if it will stop your car while in WOT.
"Seroiusly? Who said use the emergency brake?
The guy wasns't running from police, he called 911 because his car was a runaway train. He states that he tried changing gears to no effect.
Seriously? Who said he was running from the cops?
You can see that even when he barrells into the emergency out of control vehicle lane, his car is barely slowed down. Have any of you ever hit one of these? Do you know how much speed you have to be carrying to simply not be dead stopped by one of these?

Let me get this straight. You think random dude, driving who WASN'T being persued by cops at first decides. Let me call 911, fake a problem with my car for 25 miles, hit a cop in the rear to finally stop, is faking it? As compared to simply something went wrong with his car.

Are we butt hurt because its a pontiac (GM) product?
Seriously? It is utterly impossible to think that the accelerator stuck AND the key could not be turned AND it was stuck in gear and couldn't be shifted AND the brakes failed AND that the guy is not a moron. Impossible to believe all of that. He is a moron who had his foot planted on the accelerator, was to scared to put it in neutral, was afraid to turn the ignition to "off" and since his foot was planted on the accelerator on not the brake, the brakes were never used.
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