No mid-engine layout for C7 Corvette, V6 considered - Page 2

09'Z28 · 10-07-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

Big, front mounted engine + light body + rwd = corvette.

socialomar · 10-07-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

This is a great first post—welcome to the site.

thank you sir

*DGthe3* · 10-07-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle2k

It would be a TT v6 for sure. I'd love to see a 2700lb corvette with like 400hp...even if it came from a v6...2ndly expect more hp than that from a TT v6, but anyways the weight to power ratio of my aforementioned numbers would be 6.75, less than .5 away from the current z06.

Umm, you won't save 500 lbs from the aluminum and fibreglass Corvette. The chevy small block weighs as much as many V6's with forced induction. Unless you go crazy with carbon fiber you will have a hard time getting a car as capable as the corvette under 3000 lbs.

headpunter · 10-07-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Umm, you won't save 500 lbs from the aluminum and fibreglass Corvette. The chevy small block weighs as much as many V6's with forced induction. Unless you go crazy with carbon fiber you will have a hard time getting a car as capable as the corvette under 3000 lbs.

+1 billion points.

Kyle2k · 10-07-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by headpunter

+1 billion points.

If i recall correctly I believe the dimensions of the C7 are supposed to shrink by quite a bit. 6 in from the front and back and maybe 4 in on from the sides. Wouldn't that cut down on the metal content of the vehicle?

headpunter · 10-07-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle2k

If i recall correctly I believe the dimensions of the C7 are supposed to shrink by quite a bit. 6 in from the front and back and maybe 4 in on from the sides. Wouldn't that cut down on the metal content of the vehicle?

minamally thats not alot when you are using a tube aluminum frame

Kyle2k · 10-07-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by headpunter

minamally thats not alot when you are using a tube aluminum frame

Thats a new fact for me, I didn't know the frame was tube aluminum, yeah that would be pretty light then.

headpunter · 10-07-2008, 11:28 PM

its hydroformed aluminum

*DGthe3* · 10-07-2008, 11:50 PM

Shrinking dimensions won't change the weight of the engine, tranny, or suspension which combine to over 1000 lbs (est). After that there might be another few hundred pounds of items that will weigh the same regardless of external dimensions: seats, stereo, etc. After that, things break down to being more or less a function of area. Shrinking it down won't save more than 100 lbs. I'd guess maybe 50.

MajorTom · 10-08-2008, 08:59 PM

The Corvette is plenty light. The Z06 uses aluminum chassis components to make the car lighter. They could expand that to the base models and use it in place of any steel to lighten it up even more.

I love how Motortrend report that it's "Good news" that there's no talk of mounting the engine in the middle. I remember a year or so ago when they made an article saying how it'd be the best thing for it to put the engine in the middle.

I like reading some car magazines. But from my experience of having subscriptions to C&D, MT and R&T... They all pretty much write the same thing. They're all saying it's good news that there's no talk about mid engine corvettes. I'm not debating that, but what I am saying is that dedicated a cover and a big 3-4 page article to the C7 Corvette with their predictions and suggestions of what it should be. According to them of course. It said how it should have some kind of paddle shift manual transmission like in a Ferrari, a higher tech engine (I assume they were suggesting fuel-shutoff. not overhead cams) and a mid engine layout. The whole article was pretty stupid as there was no facts only rumors and suggestions from one guy. Not to mention.

I have to say Car and Driver is my favorite magazine. Their articles are written with the voice that I can relate to the most.

swifttal · 10-11-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro&T/A

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO V6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
front engine is good, AWD wouldn't be terrible,but PLEASE, PLEASE, NO V6!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

Big, front mounted engine + light body + rwd = corvette.

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Originally Posted by nester7929

The Corvette already gets good fuel economy.

GMs got a great team right now - they'll figure out how to make it work and still keep it the same corvette that's existed for over 50 years

MrKrisSullivan · 10-15-2008, 10:22 PM

it's been hydroformed since the C5... I'd say they know what there doing...
I didn't know the 'Vette was going to shrink again... It shrank from C5 to C6 and now again... wow put wings on it and it'll probably fly too...

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DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,366	Shrinking dimensions won't change the weight of the engine, tranny, or suspension which combine to over 1000 lbs (est). After that there might be another few hundred pounds of items that will weigh the same regardless of external dimensions: seats, stereo, etc. After that, things break down to being more or less a function of area. Shrinking it down won't save more than 100 lbs. I'd guess maybe 50. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

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10-08-2008, 08:59 PM	#24
MajorTom Drives: 2005 Pontiac GTO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Saint Louis, MO Posts: 306	The Corvette is plenty light. The Z06 uses aluminum chassis components to make the car lighter. They could expand that to the base models and use it in place of any steel to lighten it up even more. I love how Motortrend report that it's "Good news" that there's no talk of mounting the engine in the middle. I remember a year or so ago when they made an article saying how it'd be the best thing for it to put the engine in the middle. I like reading some car magazines. But from my experience of having subscriptions to C&D, MT and R&T... They all pretty much write the same thing. They're all saying it's good news that there's no talk about mid engine corvettes. I'm not debating that, but what I am saying is that dedicated a cover and a big 3-4 page article to the C7 Corvette with their predictions and suggestions of what it should be. According to them of course. It said how it should have some kind of paddle shift manual transmission like in a Ferrari, a higher tech engine (I assume they were suggesting fuel-shutoff. not overhead cams) and a mid engine layout. The whole article was pretty stupid as there was no facts only rumors and suggestions from one guy. Not to mention. I have to say Car and Driver is my favorite magazine. Their articles are written with the voice that I can relate to the most.

10-15-2008, 10:22 PM	#26
MrKrisSullivan New 2 The "DARK-SIDE" Drives: 2003 Ram HEMI 4x4 Slt 20in Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St. Augustine Florida Posts: 89	it's been hydroformed since the C5... I'd say they know what there doing... I didn't know the 'Vette was going to shrink again... It shrank from C5 to C6 and now again... wow put wings on it and it'll probably fly too...