Bryan Nesbitt out as Cadillac GM...

[Maa107]

Originally Posted by n!ght r!der

Chrysler is done with the PT in 2012

2012?!?! whats taking them so long to just end it? lol

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by tmurphycardesign

the xts is not the sixteen...and this proves my point.....in design..WE wanted to do the sixteen, WE wanted a proper rearwheel drive flagship, and WE proposed a final design... and guess what? it was shot down...why because the beancounters and people up in the cadillac mangament positions looked at the books, looked at the profit sheets and decided a flagship sedan over the epsilon platform (ie the malibu, lacrosse, insignia etc.) would be more profitable...so design took what we were given, and you cant do a rearwheel design over a proportion like that...and so, we have the xts...and in my opinion with what the designers were given (the platform and its frontwheel drive proportion) i think they made a pretty good looking car....whether u like the current design aeshtetic of cadillac is completly subjective.....

That sixteen was not only the bomb but is where Cadillac should have went with guns a blazin'. Do me a huge favor and thank everyone who worked on that from the bottom of my heart. That car was what would have put Cadillac back on the map again. Damn shame....

[AZCamaroFan]

I think the PT was kind of cool when it came out. Been around way too long. I like the HHR a lot. It's replacement, the Orlando just looks like a run of the mill minivan. The CTS, i mean, it's a gorgeous car imo. i'm not sold on the coupe, but the sedan is great.

[n!ght r!der]

Originally Posted by Maa107

2012?!?! whats taking them so long to just end it? lol

lol I meant to say end of 2010. This is the last year for it. The final edition will be released 4th quarter 2010

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by tmurphycardesign

as far as us designers in cadillac...we are none to happy about this.. when nesbitt was promoted to his position as cadillac general manager, we all felt this was huge plus for design and such. The people who are usually assigned to those positions usually are very disconnected to design and have more of a marketing / buisness make. Having someone in that position based from design really would have allowed more decisions that would have helped the overall design and pushed what the image of cadillac should be in the form of its cars, and brand image.....it takes someone with design knowledge to understand sometimes building the right car wont look great in the books, (examples, audi a8, bmw 7 series, these cars do not generate much profit, however they escalate the brand) but you need certain cars to be successful in the long run..if you have someone up top making the decisions based on only immediate profitability..you wont get those decisions that need to happen

I sat in meetings with Bryan and while it raised a lot of eyebrows when he was made Gen Mgr -- I felt that it was appropriate to move him into the position - as he made a lot of people look at what Cadillac SHOULD be and how it should be represented.............

He would give a decision -- (and this is important) and then the rationale behind his decision -- that doesn't happen often with others...

So I agree with most of what is said in the above post.

[FEARONE]

I for one thankful for the PT. It got me where I'm at today www.fearone.com with GM SEMA partner program, plus when I met Bryan Nesbitt at SEMA I was honored he knew about me and my cars. Glad Bryan still with GM as I have always consider him a very talented and gifted desinger.