New pics from 9/11

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by BIG_V_SS

Regardless of why the buildings fell, it is important to remember why it happened and to get those responsible. Many people lost their lives for absolutely no reason!!

[MSG']

I cut and pasted this from a website, which explains how rediculous it sounds that this could be a consiperacy...

-The Bush Administration, all of them and the people below are helping him cover up the largest mass murder in US history... Some of them like Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neil have come out for less.

-The NYC Fire fighters who know more about building collapses than most, if not all, of them. It's their LIFE to know. Literally! Yet they don't call for an investigation into the MASS MURDER of over 300 of their brothers... Why? (The twisting of these peoples’ statements for donations and DVD sales sickens me.) We have uncovered the myth about a gag order imposed on all fire fighters. Only 9/11 conspiracy sites say this. ONE person who sued Bush for not taking action before the event is ordered by the court not to speak to the media about the case. This is not imposing a gag order on the whole fire department as some of these sites claim. They are lying to cover up this mass murder by the government or the building owner. Why? They don't even know...

Conspiracy theorists bring up an article in Fire House magazine which says the fire department wanted to stop the steel from being sold in order to test the fire proofing and other non-bomb/controlled demolition related investigations. They twist the article’s context to make it seem like the firefighters questioned the idea that fire brought down the towers.

Many of these men and women come from the military, yet we are to believe they are so afraid they rather die in the government’s next mass murder than come out and expose this.

-The courts for imposing a gag order [SEE above]

-The NYC Police department who lost over 20 lives. They didn't ask for an investigation. Motive? None...

-The NYC port Authority who lost personnel. Motive?

-All the people in the Pentagon who have not called for an investigation. Many who are liberal and centrist. They did or said nothing while people supposedly trucked in airplane parts to cover the crime. Why? Again, no answer...

-The more than 1,600 widows and widowers of 9/11 who would rather have investigations of the decisions which led to the terrorist getting away with this. They don't want to waste time investigating the mass murder of their loved ones. Even the Jersey Girls. Why? They say it's the money... [note: Whenever killing someone, pay off the relative. They won’t say anything.]

-The media (This one I almost believe) who doesn't follow up on the biggest mass murder and conspiracy in American history. It seems no one wants a Nobel prize for journalism. Not only the American media but foreign press like the BBC and Al Jazeera. Why? No answer here either...

-The photographers from around the world who took pictures of the towers which clearly show bowing of the perimeter columns. These photos support the NIST hypothesis that the sagging trusses lead to the collapse. Some photos also show the core intact shortly after collapse which also not only support the NIST hypothesis but discredits the "Controlled demolition" account.

-Popular Mechanics who debunked these sites are also helping Bush commit the biggest mass murder in history.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...e/1227842.html

-PBS Nova since they created a documentary explaining in detail how and why the buildings fell. None of it said bomb.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/

-Everyone in the NIST who covers up the largest mass murder in US history. This independent organization doesn't have a moral person in hundreds of employees because not one has come out exposing this so called "Conspiracy". In fact, the hundreds of scientist who signed onto the report are willing to not only lie for Bush but cover up the largest mass murder in American history. Some suggest only a handful can do the job but that's simply impossible. The team in charge of the computer modeling has to be in sync with the team of structural engineers and so on. There are hundreds involved in this investigation and every team has to work with other teams using the same evidence and specifications.

-NY Governor Pataki because he sold steel from the WTC for the construction of the USS New York. If the argument is the government sold the steel in order to cover up the crime then Pataki is one of the criminals.

-The NY city scrap yards because they also sold steel to China before all of it was tested. Bush would have needed to call them up and tell them to sell it before they could have investigated every beam. A task which would have taken years and years not to mention millions more. Ironically the republican Mayor Bloomberg could not be involved since he asked the scrap yards not to sell the steel on behalf of the firefighters.

-EVERY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN THE WORLD who doesn't write a paper for a mainstream peer reviewed journal saying the towers were brought down and could not have fallen due to fire. If laymen can prove things just by looking at videos and reading interviews out of context, then all those structural engineers MUST be working for Bush right? Even the ones in other countries. Why? The answer they give is that the engineers don't know about Jones’ work. So in all this time no one has e-mailed Jones' work to any structural engineer?

-Structure Magazine who published a report saying the collapse of WTC 7 may have been due to one column failing.

-The liberals who don't believe the towers were brought down. (Like me) They're helping a neo-con cover-up the largest mass murder in this nation’s history. Why? No clue...

-The CIA

-The FBI

-FEMA

-The American Society of Civil Engineers who have produced peer reviewed papers showing how what Conspiracy Theorists say is impossible is possible.

-NORAD

-The FAA who saw planes which conspiracy theorists say never existed.

-The Silverstein Group who they say got together with Bush to blow up the building for insurance money.

-Silverstein's Insurance Company who didn't question the collapse and paid out over 2 billion to Silverstein. Why? Conspiracy Theorists say the insurance company just wants to pass on the bill to the public but they already fought Silverstein in a number of law suits concerning the amount.

-American Airlines (Pentagon)

-United Airlines (Pentagon)

-Logan, Newark and Dulles Airport for losing the planes

-Scientists and engineers who developed the remote control plane technology

-Installers of the remote control devices in the planes (Pentagon)

-Remote controllers of the planes (Pentagon)

-Scientists and engineers who developed the new demolition technology and carried out practical tests and computer models to make sure it would work.

-Installers of the demolitions devices in the three buildings

-People who worked at the company(s) the installers used as cover

-Airphone etc employees who said they got calls from passengers (Pentagon)

-Faux friends and relatives of the faux passengers or just the faux relatives who claim to have been called by their loved ones or just the psyops who fooled relatives into thinking they really were their loved ones. (Pentagon)

-People who detonated the buildings"

-anyone who thinks the conspiracy is a diversion to take liberal activist focus off of real crimes.

Even conspiracies with a few people are doomed. Look at Enron and Watergate. The more people you involve, the more likely the conspiracy will fall apart. The amount of people needed for this conspiracy could fill one of the towers. It's absurd to think this many people could keep a mass murder for Bush secret for this long. Absurd...

[FANTA-Z]

As said above the main thing to remember is lives lost that day, and what it did to the whole country, and even in some cases the world. We lost a lot of great people that day, and they need to be remembered and not forgotten.

[SleepWarz]

Its easier to rally a country under the banner of fear.

Not hard to believe government would be responsible for instilling it.

IMO.

[drivingincamaro]

Originally Posted by Gabe

Here's something to think about...

Any of you think it is odd that the building colapsed (imploded) on itself when the building was hit at the top and not the botom. You figure that the damage or collapsing would have only been to the top floors. Usually takes professionals to make buildings implode the way the did.

If you guys want to see a video that will make you guys questions some s**t check out a video called "Loose Change".

not trying to start a fight but the people who made "Loose Change" were college kids with little or no knowledge of Physics and architecture of buildings and steel



*back on topic*

those pictures are Strong :(

[Rod10269]

PQ has it right..you cannot control what people are going to believe no matter what evidence you present to them,in our PC correct society....2+2 does = 5 .

[2001ragtop]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Tin foil hats all around.

....spoken like a true mindless zombie who believes everything he reads in mainstream media.

[AZCamaroFan]

ya know these people that push this "controlled demolition " nonsense. ugh.
who did it? The Bush Administration? to get us into Iraq? well if they could do that, how come they weren't smart enough to plant wmd in Iraq to justify the war?
Oh well , you can never reason with the unreasonable.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Gabe

Here's something to think about...

Any of you think it is odd that the building colapsed (imploded) on itself when the building was hit at the top and not the botom. You figure that the damage or collapsing would have only been to the top floors. Usually takes professionals to make buildings implode the way the did.

If you guys want to see a video that will make you guys questions some s**t check out a video called "Loose Change".

It usually takes professionals to do that, because normally buildings aren't hit by airliners loaded with fuel. It also normally takes thousands upon thousands of man-hours over the course of months to do a building demolition, something which was not possible to do at the WTC.

In order for a large building to fall over and not collapse in on itself it needs to be incredibly strong and have the support on one side or corner removed. Even then, it will normally only tilt a bit before the shearing forces cause it to break up and then fall straight down.

If there are fires on the top floors of a building it will cause a progressive collapse as one floor breaks loose from the support structure and slams into the next floor down. This impact causes both floors to then fall into the next floor, and the next and so on until they hit the ground. Without floors to tie them together, the support columns (or walls, as the case may be) buckle under the the weight of the very top floors and the roof.

Loose Change is bullsh*t. It is full of lies, half truths, misquotes, and poor analysis.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by 2001ragtop

....spoken like a true mindless zombie who believes everything he reads in mainstream media.

Keep telling yourself that.

[2001ragtop]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Keep telling yourself that.

mainstream media presents professional propaganda to keep (FenwickHockey65) living in fear:

Proving my point with ease:

CIA Director Leon Panetta says Al-Qaida likely to attempt attack in U.S. in next three to six months
By Associated Press
February 03, 2010, 9:47AM

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf...etta_says.html

[TJ91]

breaks my heart
Youtube 911 and youll find ALOT of conflicting videos.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by 2001ragtop

mainstream media presents professional propaganda to keep (FenwickHockey65) living in fear

And the internet presents amature propaganda to keep others living in fear.