Aaaand it looks like Ford is in the game - Page 2

Wizard1183 · 06-21-2013, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Loading.....

The Barracuda is a dead fish in the water (pun intended). Ralph Gilles (President and CEO of SRT) stated that the Barracuda was a rumor that got out of hand and the platform that it would ride on (Alfa/Maserati platform) is not ready and is a couple years out.

Here is what SRT is working on... '15 SRT Challenger.

Yep, it'll be a lighter weighted Challenger to compete with the Z/28. Where will they take the weight from i wonder? That thing is a ****ing BOAT!

Loading..... · 06-21-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by backtotintops

thanks for the links especially the video...I had not seen that. I'm glad to see ralph acknowledge the z28 as a cool car and they "will answer that"...but the video actually confirms that the cuda is coming. I also heard about the delays with the fiat platform but watch the video again...the cuds is not dead in the water at all. I believe the allpar links about the cuda to be accurate. what they do with the challenger is a waste of effort in my book...that is a real pig.

You're welcome. Yea, I left out "at the moment" - the barracuda is dead in the water at the moment.

I wouldn't go as far and say the Challenger is a waste. The ZL1 and the Challenger SRT8 is about the same weight, +/- 40lbs. And think SRT is still using a cast iron block for the 6.4 and reports show that the Hellcat will be aluminum. And also the new LA platform that will show on the '15 Challenger will be even lighter by 150-200lbs. So there is a lot of room in weight savings.

BaylorCamaro · 06-21-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard1183

Yep, it'll be a lighter weighted Challenger to compete with the Z/28. Where will they take the weight from i wonder? That thing is a ****ing BOAT!

Good question. I just hope Dodge's answer to the Z/28 isn't throwing more power at it, huge sway bar, lower it and call it a day.

Stew · 06-21-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Loading.....

You're welcome. Yea, I left out "at the moment" - the barracuda is dead in the water at the moment.

I wouldn't go as far and say the Challenger is a waste. The ZL1 and the Challenger SRT8 is about the same weight, +/- 40lbs. And think SRT is still using a cast iron block for the 6.4 and reports show that the Hellcat will be aluminum. And also the new LA platform that will show on the '15 Challenger will be even lighter by 150-200lbs. So there is a lot of room in weight savings.

Interesting, didn't realize their would be any weightloss. I thought t was to update the interior inline with the rest of the lineup, to add all the current features and allow the 8 speed auto to be used.

Loading..... · 06-21-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew

Interesting, didn't realize their would be any weightloss. I thought t was to update the interior inline with the rest of the lineup, to add all the current features and allow the 8 speed auto to be used.

The main reason for the platform change from the LC to the new LA is the 8-speed auto. The current (LC) platform layout would not fit the new 8-speed. The reason it is in the Charger, 300, and Jeep GC is because they had a major refresh in '11 which included a modification of the floor pan to accommodate the 8-speed.

In '15 they have modified the platform to accommodate the 8-speed and will now be called the LA platform. They are also modifying a lot of old Mercedes suspension and rigidity components with updated Maserati/Alfa components while using some of the same material which will yield some weight lost and improve structural rigidity to the likes of the Alfa Romeo cars and Maserati Cars.

2cnd chance · 06-21-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stig

It does in that these cars will be direct competitors with the Z/28, but the thread is more about what Ford and Dodge are doing than the Z/28.

Also - awesome PS work in your signature

Thanks, but I only asked for it. The handiwork was done by Brunogadget.

*Mindz* · 06-21-2013, 04:07 PM

This should be fun. I'd love to have another IROC or TRANS AM series again. I missed the first round. =(

05stram · 06-21-2013, 06:07 PM

CAN AM series would be interesting as well. Or would they start a CAN AM MEX series now that Mexico builds some of the US markets cars?

Doc · 06-21-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 05stram

CAN AM series would be interesting as well. Or would they start a CAN AM MEX series now that Mexico builds some of the US markets cars?

Can Am wasn't for production cars, although it would be interesting. I used to love going to Riverside International Raceway and see the Can Am races there. Got to see the McLarens, Chaparrals, etc. running out there with the big name drivers.

A renewed TransAm series is VERY possible with Chevy, Dodge and Ford going head to head like they did back in the day. I would LOVE to see that kind of racing again. I think that would be more popular than Nascar because people could buy and drive the street versions of the cars they see competing on the track. And the cars and tires we have today blow away anything that was available in the 1960's.

05stram · 06-21-2013, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc

Can Am wasn't for production cars, although it would be interesting. I used to love going to Riverside International Raceway and see the Can Am races there. Got to see the McLarens, Chaparrals, etc. running out there with the big name drivers.

A renewed TransAm series is VERY possible with Chevy, Dodge and Ford going head to head like they did back in the day. I would LOVE to see that kind of racing again. I think that would be more popular than Nascar because people could buy and drive the street versions of the cars they see competing on the track. And the cars and tires we have today blow away anything that was available in the 1960's.

I knew it wasn't production but typically when you got TransAM you got the CAN AM the next weekend around here. Would be nice to have them both back.

2cnd chance · 06-22-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc

Can Am wasn't for production cars, although it would be interesting. I used to love going to Riverside International Raceway and see the Can Am races there. Got to see the McLarens, Chaparrals, etc. running out there with the big name drivers.

A renewed TransAm series is VERY possible with Chevy, Dodge and Ford going head to head like they did back in the day. I would LOVE to see that kind of racing again. I think that would be more popular than Nascar because people could buy and drive the street versions of the cars they see competing on the track. And the cars and tires we have today blow away anything that was available in the 1960's.

I agree 100%.

What was cool about Can Am (if I remember correctly) you could do almost anything to the car, as there were very few rules regarding the actual vehicles. Some had a 1,000+ HP back then.

2cnd chance · 06-22-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 05stram

I knew it wasn't production but typically when you got TransAM you got the CAN AM the next weekend around here. Would be nice to have them both back.

2cnd chance · 06-22-2013, 01:37 PM

That Mustang looks small. Maybe a retro Mustang II design?

King Sun · 06-22-2013, 02:01 PM

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Prayer.

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Mindz E.B.A.H. Drives: you wild... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the happy padded room wearing a jacket that makes me hug myself... Posts: 18,420	This should be fun. I'd love to have another IROC or TRANS AM series again. I missed the first round. =( __________________ Blue Rush, 2010 SS [Car of the Week 3/22/2010] Traded in on...ZLZBUBB, 2013 ZL1

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2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	That Mustang looks small. Maybe a retro Mustang II design? __________________

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05stram Drives: 2013 RS - 2013 2SS/RS - 1971 RS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,027	CAN AM series would be interesting as well. Or would they start a CAN AM MEX series now that Mexico builds some of the US markets cars?