2013 Hundia Genesys to have 345HP

[Blade]

The I love the engineering in these cars but hate the styling.

As for the whole Hyundai name brand, the first thing I notice owners of these cars do is debadge the car, example gl2filmerguy's genesis.

Even Huyndai owners aren't fond of the badge.

[8cd03gro]

They're pretty nice cars. The interior is very nice vs competitors, but I wouldn't drive one. Seems like it kind of fills the middle ground between various competitors, but doesn't really excel at anything.

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by midnighter

I would have liked this car had it been a Lexus but Hyundai has never been a name brand I could ever have faith in after the cars they built in the late 80's, the entire 90's, and up until a couple of years ago.

None of the manufacturers are any where near the same as they used to be in the 80's and 90's. Hyundai has stepped up their game.

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

Originally Posted by kiteman

they are pretty cool, though i think the sedan is much better. they can whoop on a v6 camaro pretty easily.

Not really, currently over 300lbs lighter and only beats the camaro in stock form by a few 10ths of a sec. Thats not saying much. Not only that its much lighter but still gets worse gas mileage. Its like the Camaro is loaded down with 2 v8 engines in the backseat but only loses the race by a few ticks. Imagine if the camaro was the same weight as the Hyundai. It would blow it away in speed and mileage.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

None of the manufacturers are any where near the same as they used to be in the 80's and 90's. Hyundai has stepped up their game.

Absolutely. Let's be honest, there weren't too many great cars in the 80s coming from anyone. Hyundai lingered in the crappy cars arena for a while, but they've really stepped it up the past few years.

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

Originally Posted by midnighter

I would have liked this car had it been a Lexus but Hyundai has never been a name brand I could ever have faith in after the cars they built in the late 80's, the entire 90's, and up until a couple of years ago.

Looks like someone beat the nose up with a baseball bat. Its all over the place.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by PercyJWellingtonIII

Not really, currently over 300lbs lighter and only beats the camaro in stock form by a few 10ths of a sec. Thats not saying much. Not only that its much lighter but still gets worse gas mileage. Its like the Camaro is loaded down with 2 v8 engines in the backseat but only loses the race by a few ticks. Imagine if the camaro was the same weight as the Hyundai. It would blow it away in speed and mileage.

Well that depends on which one you're talking about. . . the tau v8 equipped genesis sedan will play the v6 camaro like a fiddle. The coupe models aren't all that impressive in a straight line though and the v6 model is just about even with a v6 camaro in the straights, the 4 is slower.

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

Chevy should be shooting for at least 350HP for the V6. I hear Ford is going for 365 with Ecoboost.

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Well that depends on which one you're talking about. . . the tau v8 equipped genesis sedan will play the v6 camaro like a fiddle. The coupe models aren't all that impressive in a straight line though and the v6 model is just about even with a v6 camaro in the straights, the 4 is slower.

I am talking V6. I doubt if the coupe will even take a V8 without the front end dragging the ground. Thats why its not even a pony car. A pony car is made to hold a V8 as a standard config.

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Absolutely. Let's be honest, there weren't too many great cars in the 80s coming from anyone. Hyundai lingered in the crappy cars arena for a while, but they've really stepped it up the past few years.

The late 70s to early 90s automobile history should be ommitted from all history books.

[TaylorRyanSS]

Originally Posted by gl2filmerguy

I had a Genesis. Loved it.

What wheels are those?

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by MINI HLK

Seems to me GM feels that the V6 is for the everyday pedestrian owner. Meaning those that cant afford a V8 or dont want the power of a V8 can afford and enjoy the power of a V6.
With that said, if your remember GM will be using either the LLT or LFX V6 in the new DI formula series races. There I am sure the research will happen. Will it go to production or parts that we can purchase who knows.
As far as worrying about the competition, Honda, Kia, Ford, Hyundai, Nissan, Chrysler... etc, dont. Someone will always have something better / faster. It all depends on what you like and can afford.

That's because that's exactly what it is, the V6 was bred for economy first, the engine has some great performance stats for a non DI V6, I think they should be making a lot more power with the DI but people buy the V6 for economy first that's why the Camaro comes in 2 configurations (3 if you count the ZL1, which I don't because it's not out yet), V6 and V8.

V6: Economy, Looks, Daily Drivability
V8: Power, Looks, Performance Based Mods
Supercharged V8: Super Power, Factory Warranty with insane power, Looks

The V8 is the Engine Configuration that Most, not all, Enthusiasts will go for and GM knows this, that's why the ZL1 is a Supercharged V8 and not a TT V6.

As soon as the Fuel Pump problems are over however there will be a lot more people turbocharging/supercharging their V6's. Plus the V6 means we V8 lovers will be able to have one in the future

That all being said the V6 Engine is great it's just the weight problem they have to work on.... but that can be said about the SS and the ZL1 too.

['11 cyber grey vert]

I absolutely love my V6 vert.The V8 has insane power but for driving around where I live can't really use the power to its fullest,that is why I chose the V6 which is a good balance of power and still have the tremendous styling of the camaro.

As for the genesis,I would never buy one.I have never been a fan of the import sport coupes.The import styling always seems to be very similar between manufacturers
also, there is not the heritage associated with the genesis as there is with the camaros,corvettes,mustangs etc.

[TOMS1SS]

Until they have a V8 available it isn't a viable competitor to any of the Pony Cars.

[Jay_LHD3]

Originally Posted by TOMS1SS

Until they have a V8 available it isn't a viable competitor to any of the Pony Cars.

I don't think that is their intention. 345hp puts them right in line with the 370Z, for the people who want to save few thousands dollars on a small sporty coupe.

[TOMS1SS]

Originally Posted by Jay_LHD3

I don't think that is their intention. 345hp puts them right in line with the 370Z, for the people who want to save few thousands dollars on a small sporty coupe.

That may not be the intention but almost everyone draws comparisons with the V6 models.