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Old 04-15-2014, 12:32 AM   #183
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Match? Sure, that could be lived with. Especially if you can have all the creature comforts for your drive to and from the track. Nothing like listening to more than one speaker and not uninsulated road noise, or flicking on the sstandard a/c while driving the car the other 85% of the time it's not making super fast laps.
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Old 04-15-2014, 02:29 AM   #184
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Let's face it, its a pipe dream for Ford to make a mustang that compares to the z/28 at a lower price, its not happenin, end of discussion. But will Ford be able intentional to put out a sick engine that eats gen5 camaros for breakfast? Hell yes, and that's a good thing, hopefully Chevy gets the hint and steps up the horsepower game!
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:10 AM   #185
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Match? Sure, that could be lived with. Especially if you can have all the creature comforts for your drive to and from the track. Nothing like listening to more than one speaker and not uninsulated road noise, or flicking on the sstandard a/c while driving the car the other 85% of the time it's not making super fast laps.
As long as you make all those "creature comforts" optional, I suppose you could say you "matched" the Z/28's driving-focused character. Which is a separate matter from matching its performance.

Quite honestly, the last thing I'd want in a frequently tracked car is a whole laundry-list of features I wouldn't ever use when out on the track and rarely if ever anyway.

I agree about the speakers - even headphones have two, and A/C does provide better defrosting action when the windows are closed. After that, the list of "gotta-have's" gets really short and the list of "don't want's" grows. Maybe instead of "add" options, it's time for performance-intended cars to offer a variety of "delete options", and when you opt up to a car with 1LE or higher performance intent you open up a number of these delete options that wouldn't have to be available otherwise.


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Old 04-15-2014, 12:37 PM   #186
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NEW YORK – Ever since the days of the Hatfields and the McCoys, rivalries have been a cornerstone of American culture. Some become endlessly bitter feuds. Others, like the healthy competition between the Chevrolet Camaro and Ford Mustang, become a driving force for constant improvement.

“For five decades, the Camaro and the Mustang have been battling it out in every possible setting,” said Mark Reuss, executive vice president, GM Global Product Development. “These two cars have been striving to beat each other on the track, on the drag strip and on the streets. That competition is a big part of why both cars are so amazing, and so popular, today.”


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Old 04-15-2014, 12:42 PM   #187
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As long as you make all those "creature comforts" optional, I suppose you could say you "matched" the Z/28's driving-focused character. Which is a separate matter from matching its performance.

Quite honestly, the last thing I'd want in a frequently tracked car is a whole laundry-list of features I wouldn't ever use when out on the track and rarely if ever anyway.

I agree about the speakers - even headphones have two, and A/C does provide better defrosting action when the windows are closed. After that, the list of "gotta-have's" gets really short and the list of "don't want's" grows. Maybe instead of "add" options, it's time for performance-intended cars to offer a variety of "delete options", and when you opt up to a car with 1LE or higher performance intent you open up a number of these delete options that wouldn't have to be available otherwise.
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Norm, we talked earlier about a GT350-R as a possibility: de-contented in creature comfort, re-contented with the track-focused features (R-spec tires, C-C brakes etc.). Both with the "new" engine. Not unlike the recently retired BOSS and BOSS LS, only this time the end result might be closer to the 302-R, but with a VIN. Greater production volume lowers the unit cost per special engine. Or have the GT350 share some major features (e.g. engine) with another "special"...Mach 1 etc.

They've done THAT before, so it's easily repeatable...
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NEW YORK – Ever since the days of the Hatfields and the McCoys, rivalries have been a cornerstone of American culture. Some become endlessly bitter feuds. Others, like the healthy competition between the Chevrolet Camaro and Ford Mustang, become a driving force for constant improvement.



“For five decades, the Camaro and the Mustang have been battling it out in every possible setting,” said Mark Reuss, executive vice president, GM Global Product Development. “These two cars have been striving to beat each other on the track, on the drag strip and on the streets. That competition is a big part of why both cars are so amazing, and so popular, today.”




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