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Old 03-28-2010, 05:06 PM   #1821
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Is it just me, or does this seem like a very steep torque curve (only 70% of peak torque at 2100 RPM??). Even if this is an accurate dyno run, the 5.0 doesn't seem much stronger at the low end than the 4.6 was, and doesn't really start to produce more than the LS3 until almost 6000 RPM, so as soon as you hit that power, its time to shift, and it falls way off. The 5.0 may be slightly faster at the track than the Camaro, but I'd bet the spread won't be nearly as much as that HP number suggests it would be.

It'd take the Camaro's low end torque over the 5.0's high end power any day. Driving on the street, the 5.0 probably won't feel nearly as powerful as the dyno says it is. For normal daily driving (99% of the time) I'm just not running in that 6000-7000 RPM range, so I'd never actually "see" that power at the end of the line on the graph except on rare occasions. You can beef up a car on paper all day long, but ultimately how it feels as you drive it is more important.
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Old 03-28-2010, 05:10 PM   #1822
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Cmon now dont play stupid. If you really want to tell yourself that a camaro running a 103 trap speed is a good example then go ahead. But you are just lying to yourself.

And your right, trap wont give you a win...the projected 1/4 for both cars was ridiculous...so thats why I chose to use trap speed...it is less dependent upon traction...which was a problem from reading the article.
you don't know what conditions were really like though. What if that 103.75 trapping L99 is usually 107's somewhere else? then that would mean the mustang SHOULD have been trapping 112-113, which based on power to weight ratio, it should.
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Old 03-28-2010, 06:09 PM   #1823
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i am just saying that with the history of the l99 iwouldnt be surprised if the one in the test is a dog. I wouldnt be a bit surprised if the mustang traps 112 anyway...its not down on power with the auto tranny like the camaro is.
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Old 03-28-2010, 06:22 PM   #1824
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Stop counting down you monster!

When are they actually going to post the results? Tomorrow mid-day or at midnight tonight? Which timezone?
i believe the first impressions will be posted at midnight, and the numbers on
monday mid-day pacific-time.
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Old 03-28-2010, 06:25 PM   #1825
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Dammit, I only care about numbers. I don't care about people's personal impressions of a car! Hopefully the numbers do come tonight.
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Old 03-28-2010, 07:11 PM   #1826
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i believe the first impressions will be posted at midnight, and the numbers on
monday mid-day pacific-time.

and what would the benefit of that be? and that wouldnt follow past embargos. every magazine/outlet wants the most of the attention so no point in holding out if you are allowed to release the info
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Old 03-28-2010, 08:28 PM   #1827
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it wasnt a track at all
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Old 03-28-2010, 08:37 PM   #1828
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Just what I would expect as the HP numbers are very close. With the Mutang being 300# lighter. Nubers stink, but its on an unprepped surface. If you dont want to read the Mustang is faster in the 1/8 both in ET and MPH.
Just took a look back threw my time slips and on a horrific 2.20 60' eighth mile pass. I went 8.491 at 88.58 mph. My best so far was an 8.195 at 88.58 mph. The same exact mph with a 1.97 60'. Yes i know different tracks and weather conditions but someone must not of known how to drive that Camaro!
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Old 03-28-2010, 08:41 PM   #1829
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it wasnt a track at all
If you had seen what we were racing on you would of thought it was a country road! It looked like 2 red dirt lanes! What im getting at was the mph even with bad 60's doesnt change on my car much.
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Old 03-28-2010, 09:07 PM   #1830
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10 camaro vs 11 mustang

Hot rod mag relesed some info. heres the link. http://blogs.popularhotrodding.com/6...-50/index.html
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just close it now before it goes to sh!t.
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Old 03-28-2010, 09:14 PM   #1833
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Old 03-28-2010, 09:15 PM   #1834
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