The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[syr74]

Originally Posted by Super83Z

Supposedly 65 more hp, 260 lbs lighter and it can only do .2 in the 1/8 and .3 in the 1/4 faster than the lower hp L99? Doesn't sound all that great.

Those were his times, not best times with actual 1/4 mile numbers coming Monday.

[bpmurr]

Heck even I'm scared of what this new GT might bring. I might swap my GT500 for one if I can put the power down better. I don't need the high horsepower the GT500 can produce with a blower swap.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Its funny. Just like I have been saying.

Before when the camaro beat the mustang by over a half second...no credit is given. Most mags and people say its a close race etc etc

Now we have cars with .2-.3 tenths of each other and the mustang is "king of the hill"

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Super83Z

Supposedly 65 more hp, 260 lbs lighter and it can only do .2 in the 1/8 and .3 in the 1/4 faster than the lower hp L99? Doesn't sound all that great.

I was actually encouraged by that article.

An ls3 camaro makes more power than an L99 camaro. 26 more hp to be exact. The mustang auto has the same motor as mustang manual. And the 395 to the wheels is obviously bogus for many reasons I wont go into for the tenth time. And from the looks of these results the motor is obviously right around 412hp. The weight and power difference form an L99 will put it right at .3 tenths faster.

Theoretically the ls3 would have been neck in neck in that comparison with another 26 hp.

So far I am not surprised by anything.

[fazm]

14 more hp makes up for 260 lbs to make it neck and neck?

until we see a full slip, for all we know the mustang was spinning since we all know the tires suck on it. i mean it was 3mph ahead in the 1/8th

and ive been following a lot of the drag racing section in here, hasnt the auto camaro, been on average, the better performer?

[Inferno2SS]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Man this stang is going to be fast. They sounded impressed with the track numbers. Being motor trend pulled a 13.0 with the camaro, I am guessing they got a 12.7 or 12.8 with the mustang. I believe the numbers from motor trend also. They are putting down about the same power as an SS (torque is a bit behind). It would be understandable. With only -14 hp, but less drivetrain loss with the SRA and smaller wheels, the numbers should be right in line with the SS at the rear wheels. I am guessing the GT should be about .2 -.3 tenths faster looking at the weight if they can hook.


So exciting. I am actually going to be intimidated when I pull up to an equally priced mustang...good times.

I wonder what GM plans to do with the camaro to counter? they will change something soon I am sure.

That would seem odd to me since they only pulled a 12.8 in the Mustang GT500 when Motor Trend ran it vs the Camaro SS, which ran a 12.9 in that race.

It is all speculation til they hit production and we see some real world numbers. Its pretty much going to be a drivers race, as it is now anyway.

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by Inferno2SS

That would seem odd to me since they only pulled a 12.8 in the Mustang GT500 when Motor Trend ran it vs the Camaro SS, which ran a 12.9 in that race.

It is all speculation til they hit production and we see some real world numbers. Its pretty much going to be a drivers race, as it is now anyway.

The 12.8 was obviously a car or traction issue; this is not normal.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by fazm

14 more hp makes up for 260 lbs to make it neck and neck?

until we see a full slip, for all we know the mustang was spinning since we all know the tires suck on it. i mean it was 3mph ahead in the 1/8th

and ive been following a lot of the drag racing section in here, hasnt the auto camaro, been on average, the better performer?

No...the 26 extra horsepower the ls3 makes over the L99 would make up 2-3 tenths. What did you think I was talking about? The auto mustang has the same motor as the manual transmission car and may very well be faster than the m6 counterpart. This test was not top drivetrain vs top drivetrain...another skewed test...that seems to be par for the course so far. Until I see m6 vs m6 I could care less about this test.

I guess to look at it how you said 14hp would make up .14 tenths. Giving the mustang about a .1 tenth advantage. DRIVERS RACE. Yeah I would call it neck and neck.

This just keeps re-affirming what I have been saying all along. .6 tenths 2010 mustang vs camaro= drivers race. 2011 mustang beats camaro by a couple tenths= king of the hill.

The L99 has also ran like crap on several occasions. Also, The fastest L99 time is .3 tenths slower than the LS3. Again...making up the difference.

When isnt the auto on average a better performer? a lot less user error with any vehicle auto vs manual. But it isnt exactly fair in this case when a manual transmission camaro comes with an extra 26 hp over the auto....

[DeathChill]

If the GT only turns out to be within a tenth or two of the 2010 SS I will be slightly saddened and interested for whatever happens with the 2011 SS.

The 2011 Camaro changes are being announced this week, yes?

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by DeathChill

If the GT only turns out to be within a tenth or two of the 2010 SS I will be slightly saddened and interested for whatever happens with the 2011 SS.

The 2011 Camaro changes are being announced this week, yes?

Motor trend ran a 12.5 with the ls3 corvette. What does everyone expect?

I am very impressed with this mustang...but like I said not very surprised by the numbers. Its simple power to weight in most cases.

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Motor trend ran a 12.5 with the ls3 corvette. What does everyone expect?

I am very impressed with this mustang...but like I said not very surprised by the numbers. Its simple power to weight in most cases.

It just has to be upsetting for the Mustang guys who went off about how we'll see in 2011! A tenth or two is not huge, hence why no one called it a huge defeat for the Challenger SRT8 lost by that much.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

based off statistics, the L99 in that run would have gone ~103.75 vs. ~109 for the 5.0. That is a substantial trap speed difference.

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

based off statistics, the L99 in that run would have gone ~103.75 vs. ~109 for the 5.0. That is a substantial trap speed difference.

So pretty much the same difference between 2010 GT versus the 2010 SS manual? (104 to 111/110)

[Black GT]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

No...the 26 extra horsepower the ls3 makes over the L99 would make up 2-3 tenths.

BS.
even with Chevy's drivers when they were testing the Camaros there was only .1 difference in times between the LS3 and the L99 with the favor going to the LS3.