Perceptions Die... OK Say Again Y Foreign is Better

[MrIcky]

The 'huge knobs' are designed to be ergonomic with work-gloved hands on the Tundra. Not defending, joking, etc. Just lettin' you know the answer to 'what's with the huge knobs'.

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by LSXgirl

I'm a girl whose owned several camaros, and the fastest production fwd to go around the ring...so it matters lol. Also if you don't think it's fast, talk to the boys in the m3's who've seen my beeeeeeehind haha. I love cts v's.

I hear U.. and let me say that if there is one person in the world who LOOOOOVE the Cobalt SSt.. It's me. I posted on the Cobalt run awhile ago... http://forums.motortrend.com/70/6452...-ef/index.html

This was before I was banned on MT Forum for LOVIN Domestics to much and not supporting the away teams from Toyota and BMW

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by The Viz

You just don't know what you're missin' opt'ing not to get the Recaros!

I tell U what I'm not missing.. and that's $3K for seats that I will never really use to the limit. For me.. the regular seats suit me fine. I treat my Cadillac as LUXO first.. then Sport.

[LSXgirl]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

I hear U.. and let me say that if there is one person in the world who LOOOOOVE the Cobalt SSt.. It's me. I posted on the Cobalt run awhile ago... http://forums.motortrend.com/70/6452...-ef/index.html

This was before I was banned on MT Forum for LOVIN Domestics to much and not supporting the away teams from Toyota and BMW

Well those foreign owners do get butthurt.

[All-Or-Nothing]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

Come on.. give the General some props

I do give them props, but Ford deserves it too.

[lil_chef]

I tend to use the ring as a benchmark for performance since i prefer road racing. i am not the kind of guy who likes to mash a pedal and go in a straight line (sorry for over simplifying it). the Ring is used as a benchmark because is has a large combination of turns and straights, measuring both straight line capability and twisty capability.

i am extremely confident that if the Caddy that was taken to the ring was a manual transmission it would have tied or beat the Porsche. i think i read somewhere the automatic Caddy hit its top speed multiple times (limiting its time).

[lil_chef]

HEY. i didnt say i agreed with him. which is why i will always buy the american variant of a car, unless there is no american equivalent. (I need a Mid engine American car ASAP)

im sure my dad was referring to the incident of offering (bond or stock holders) an extremely low price for their stake in the company. and then gave a fraction of the company to the union workers.

^im not 100% on the explanation above so if you want to correct me go ahead.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

I think U will see more detail put into it than we saw in the CTS. GM was on the verge of death when the CTS debuted. They are now in a renewed position.. and one ride in a Lacrosse will make an honest statement of how good the XTS should end up being.

No, not quite and far from it when it was being developed.

But to your post, Cmicasa, I appreciate your positivity. Not wanting to discuss details on this potential future GM product, lets get to brass tacks.

There will always be a contingent that will not accept a FWD flagship let alone a true FWD perforance car. Audi A8 and VW Phaeton are RWD. All Mercedes, all BMWs are RWD. The purists would accept nothing less. Look at Shnomac's thread on the FWD Camaro........and could you possibly imagine a ZR1 FWD/AWD? Nope.

Don't get me wrong, I love the A6..........and the A6 is based on the A4 paltform. They make for truly outstanding, pleasing and luxurious automobiles.

But no one at GM would truly hint at a proposed FWD platform competing with an S-Class, 7-Series or A8.

You guys are right, many if not most buyers of the RWD cars couldn't tell you the difference or describe the driving dynamics in detail. But the ones that know tell them in countless magazine reviews. And even though they may not know, they want what is recognized as the best.

But, Cmicasa, I'll just hope you are right, with a lot of assumptions about this product you refer to.

[FenwickHockey65]

Good old Bob Lutz is pushing for a Zeta XTS...

[duder4thgen]

I'd say there is a distinct difference in driving characteristic between a FWD and AWD/RWD cars. And I'm sorry, no matter what the FWD car, it just feels either cheap, boring, or both.

If GM is going to compete with the likes of the 7 series, the car is going to have to be world class in every single aspect. Using FWD would be like polishing a turd, you could get it shiny, but its still a turd underneath, and anyone taking a test drive would feel it right away.

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Good old Bob Lutz is pushing for a Zeta XTS...

Bob is the man. Hell, he should be CEO.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

Power delivery is seamless. I will confess I normally ride around all day in "SPORT MODE" not shifting but letting it just sit in drive. The Tranny hooks up 10 times better and holds the gears a lot longer and with better results. I have gone up against an M5, M6, Z06, Vette like mine, M3, RS4, IS-F, Viper and E63AMG... and have only been bested by the Z06 and the Viper. Truth is my Vette will probably equal this Cadillac. Withteh mods I've done to my Vette I have taken out Z06s, albeit without their cars having Mods. I would not be able to beat my V if my Vette was stock... No way.

Good to know! I've no doubt the LSA is powerful (hell, it's got 70lbs more torque than an LS7..)...it's great that it's also smooth, and seemingly flat.

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

One problem I have with the CTS-V is that it's "sneaky." By that I mean it's not loud

Bah -- that's nothing an exhaust swap (or delete) can't fix.

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

This was because the NORTHSTAR was to be replace with the "Ultra V8" in 2010.. but it was killed due to CAFE. GM will now be kicking out probably two versions of the Gen V Small Block bot with DI, one with OHV config.. the other with OHC.

Yeah -- that was a rumor going around for a while, though I'm not sure how true it was. It's not easy to simply "switch" an engine from OHV to OHC, they would require two very different blocks, and two totally different heads. I think whoever started that rumor misunderstood something. Given that the LSA is smooth as butter...I don't think there's even a need for a Caddy-specific engine lineup. I would simply engineer the refinement into all my V8s, if I were GM -- it would do nothing but benefit the rest of the brands.

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

Vette people mind... U should see the Corvette Forum when U mention CAMARO. They don't go nuts because Chevy did the right thing by hobbling the LS3 to 426 (easily retrievable).. not to mention the Camaro weighs substantially more.

Mm...not from what I've seen. You must visit some not-so-great Vette forums....The two I'm active on are relatively welcoming of the Camaro. Those who have an issue with it usually just say "it's not a Vette"...which is true.

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

Love to be able to justify buying a Camaro as my everyday car in place of my G6. What a effin UPGRADE that would be. As it turns out... I'm at 92K miles on my Pontiac and will probably hit 180K by the time I replace it in 2012 with a VOLT

Fantastic plan, if you ask me!!! I'm thinking I'll do the same when I replace the Cobalt. It would depend on what the other brands are offering at the time (Buick is looking hot lately)....we'll see.

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Yeah.. Buick is looking to have some nice products coming up. But for my purposes I will stick with the Chevy name for my everyday car needs. The Volt, perhaps a Cruze 1.4L might fit perfectly.

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by lil_chef

I tend to use the ring as a benchmark for performance since i prefer road racing. i am not the kind of guy who likes to mash a pedal and go in a straight line (sorry for over simplifying it). the Ring is used as a benchmark because is has a large combination of turns and straights, measuring both straight line capability and twisty capability.

i am extremely confident that if the Caddy that was taken to the ring was a manual transmission it would have tied or beat the Porsche. i think i read somewhere the automatic Caddy hit its top speed multiple times (limiting its time).

Yes the Auto was used. And while I'll agree that the Ring is a nice road course for performance testing.. I have a strange feeling that the Porsche Driver had a more in depth familiarity with the RING than Johnny did. AWD didn't hurt either I'm willing to bet... especially in that twisty climate. But there in lies the issue. We are talking about a DRIVER'S RACE more so than which car is the fastest in that situation.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

This was before I was banned on MT Forum for LOVIN Domestics to much and not supporting the away teams from Toyota and BMW

My hero!