To our police officers...question

[Camaroyoung]

The majority of cops are good guys and gals.
The majority of our military are great guys and gals.
The majority of civilians are decent people.

The rest can be @holes, pompus, disrespectful, rude, and lacking common sense! Stereo types are misleading and show a lack of respect.

[Teleplayer]

Originally Posted by PreacherMan

Do I owe YOU something? I tend to get pulled over 3 to 4 times every time I go on leave. Wanna know why? Because I'm young, and I drive a noticeable, loud 4x4 truck. I have fought 4 tickets, and won them all, because of lack of evidence and witness and solid proof on my part. Just because you have the power to write a ticket doesn't mean I'm going to be nice to you and act like a whopped dog not to get one. You put your life on the line for me?? Bullshit, its rare that I see any cop get out of there car, other than to ticket someone, and then they only do it if there 4 cars worth of back up sitting there. Turns out you may "put your life on the line" by sitting there writing ticket, well I put my life on the line in Iraq and/or Afghanistan whenever I'm called to, and I don't feel like I get owed anything. So why do you? I owe you respect for pulling me over, when you do the same thing all the time? I can't count how many times I've seen a cop speed, or make an illegal u turn, or flip there lights on to beat a redlight, then turn them right back off. 99% of police officers are the biggest hypocrites I know. So yeah when you walk up to the car being a hard ass, your gonna get lip from me. And When you write me some bullshit ticket because you got lip, I'm gonna fight it, and you damn well better have your facts straight, because I will win if you don't.

Couldn't have said it better myself. The part about acting like a whipped dog to not get a ticket is right on. Every cop on here has said that is the way to avoid a ticket. It pumps up their ego if you act nice even if you don't want to... and satisfies the power trip. Why else would it matter? The way you act does not change what you did on the road. And like I said, I don't hate cops and I think there are lots of good ones out there. But when I hear this about how you have to put on a nice act - I just go

I'm not saying to be a complete jerk when you are pulled over, but you should be able to give your side of the story without fear of retribution.

Preacherman, thanks for serving our country.

[zzz28zzz]

At least for me it wouldn't be the acting nice and respectful that will get you out of a ticket. It's more the if you act like a jerk, the chance you get one goes up. I am polite to everyone I stop, I expect the same in return....Just common courtesy....well I guess it really isn't so common

[Teleplayer]

I always wondered why a cop asks "do you know why I pulled you over"? Are they looking for an admission of guilt? I always say I have no idea. Besides, I'm gonna find out in a matter of seconds.

[Laserjen]

Originally Posted by PreacherMan

Screw the police

Wow. I wasn't going to comment on this thread, but while I agree with some of the points raised, I find the attitudes of some of the people posting disheartening. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but why be so hostile? Why blame an entire group of people for the actions of some? What happened to giving people respect because they are human beings and are doing their jobs unless or until they personally do something to lose your respect?

I'm done with this thread because it is making me angry, but thank you to everyone serving/protecting our country here and abroad.

[Silverado]

Many of our officer members have said that if you are respectful and decent, you stand a better chance.........that would be a better chance of getting your side heard, getting to explain your self, even a better chance of just getting a warning.

However, I do not recall any of them (please, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), in any of the threads saying "you better act like a whipped dog if you want any chance of getting out of the ticket". That just isn't the case.

Everyone is the same really....if someone acts like a dick or an ass to you, you react the same way. It just takes some people longer to return the attitude. Some people have incentives to keep it civil (i.e. officers not really wanting to get sued, reported, written up, whatever....), plus, I'm sure some training, in how to deal with such people, so they can "take it" a little better than your average person. That doesn't mean they should have to "take it".

I'm not saying officers are above the law (I too have seen plenty of them break the speed limit, run stop signs, etc). Nor am I saying that someone they pull over should have to bow down and kiss their feet. But, when you get pulled over, there is no reason to be an ass to the officer. They are just doing their job. Why not just be civil, respectful, whatever you want to call it and increase your chances of getting out of it altogether. Bitch about the stop/officer all you want after the fact.

Sorry, I don't agree with the attitude that you should get to say what you want or act however you want. If you got pulled over, it is almost a guarantee you were the one in the wrong and should probably get a ticket for it. Given that our officer friends here on Camaro5 have offered suggestions as to how to "take advantage of officer discretion", I think you should thank them for the advice and use it if needed. Or, you can be an asshole and get the ticket and treatment you deserve.

[patriotpa]

Originally Posted by PreacherMan

Screw the police

If they look like this:


Sure! Why not?

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[broncosman]

Originally Posted by PreacherMan

They don't help anyways. I've had a cop sit and watch my pregnant sister carry her two year old daughter through knee deep flood waters after her car got stuck and died, and afterwards had the balls to drive by her and ask if she was stupid for driving in there and then drive off with no offer to help. And I've seen my cousin call about a man trying to force his way into her car when she was 17, and got told that all officers where on patrol, so expect a 30 to 45 min. wait time. And they never showed. I've seen alot more bad than good come out of police officers. To protect and serve my ass, more like to ticket and harrass. I'll stand up for cops when they do something other than break the laws they are supposed to enforce, harass teenagers and lose a little bit of there holier than thou, I'm a cop so you MUST respect me attitude. Most cops have one problem, and thats a major power trip. Whatever, I'm expressing my opinions just as you are, and I can fend for myself, thank you very much, always have, always will. Screw the police

You will always hear the negative over good in life. The news makes it's money off of negative. You'll see on the news (or hear from people) "Officer so and so is under investigation for this & that. Tonight at 11pm." and so forth, but how about "today on the news, a police cadet saved a person from a burning car on the side of the road. He was passing by when he saw a car on fire, pulled the person out and saved their lives." not just the police, how about military "After President Bush declared war on Iraq in search for weapons of mass destruction, none were found..." but the actual fact that last year, or the year before they did not report "After continuous investigation and searching, the U.S. military found signs of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. (or something like that. they did find it but the news never really reported it).

as for 30-45 minutes delay, well in Houston we're 5,000 officers undermanned and out of the 5,000 we have, 65% is eligible for retirement. The couple months ago, I responded to an accident that was holding for 6 hours. I arrived apologizing and I left apologizing. I can't remember how many times I get reamed from a citizen b/c it took so long for the police to respond. I think that's pretty fair to me. I mean hell, I just came to work & I have control over what evening shift does.

As for your sister, you only heard her biased side of it. Maybe the officer was flashing his lights at her telling not to attempt it and she did anyways. I don't know. The officer not jumping into the water to help your sister, who obviously did something stupid, put herself in the situation. If the water was knee deep, she was in no obvious danger. How did the kid get into the car in the first place? Did she have someone put it in there so she didn't have to carry it? What about where she's going? Was someone waiting for her to take the kid out of the car seat and carry it for her? How pregnant is she? Pregnant women work out as well so carrying a child through knee deep water while being pregnant is NOT a health hazard to the unborn child.

I'm not saying that every officer does right or wrong, I'm saying there's always a reason for what people do. I try real hard not to let people's ignorance and stupidity control my actions and words when dealing with them day in and day out. It's a very hard thing to do. To date I have had 0 complaints filed against me. I have not been in a fight with someone I'm trying to arrest. I've been fortunate b/c I try to talk to them respectfully, even though on the inside I'd love to beat the hell out of them for hitting/beating their GF/wife. I've ran into some people who I've taken to jail (either from me arresting or me just transporting) and they've actually thanked me saying "Hey, I wanna thank you for being nice to me and respectful. Once I went to jail and other officers handled me they treated me like crap and yelled at me the whole time."

So again, officer's actions/reactions are greatly affected by their moods. We have extremely shitty days and we have great days. But there's a reason for everything. And for the officer to write a ticket to everyone but the Camaro (who happens to be a forum member) has a reason. If he wrote the ticket to the camaro forum member, that member would possibly be on here blasting him about it and then people would be like "man we're all friends here, why couldn't you give him a warning?" and you would possibly be posting things like "see, cops are dicks. they write everyone, even friends." or something like that. how about the benefit of the doubt. I think you're pretty sour b/c you get pulled over a lot by the police and for the most part you don't catch a brake. That's unfortunate. How many times HAVE you been pulled over? That will show, so if you're a habitual offender then yes, you're going to not catch a brake. So now, you are on a mission to just point out every little thing the police does wrong and become anti-police. Hey, that's fine. That makes you a hypocrite as well. That's no different then what that officer did writing everyone but the camaro a ticket. You're letting your emotions/mood control your actions/reactions. There's no way you're going to let an officer slide on something. But if an officer is in a bad mood, and makes decisions based on his mood, bad or good, he is going to catch heat from someone. So if for some miraculous reason, you get pulled over by a camaro5 forum member, is he supposed to cut you a ticket or let you go without you flaming him for not cutting you a ticket or for giving you one. And if he let you go with a brake, you wouldn't come on here and say "WOW, a camaro5 forum member pulled me over and gave me a warning. thanks bud" No, you wouldn't.

So honestly, I think you need to put yourself in officer's shoes. Are there things some officers do that I don't like? Yes. Are there gov't officials, regular office workers and regular bosses that also have power trips? Yes. How about the fast food employees who spit in our food or do unsavory things to it when we order in our uniform, do we deserve that? Life as a police officer isn't easy. Our lives are in danger every day, we get treated with disrespect for the most part and to top it off, we're only human and we make mistakes/bad decisions. No one is perfect. But for you to come in here and say "Screw the police" really pisses me off. But I am not allowed to let that control me when dealing with you. I will still pull you out of that burning car/house. I will still be there for you when you need me. Try not being so bitter in life and towards the police & put yourself in their shoes. Putting yourself in others shoes is one of the hardest things to do and understand. It is impossible for some people, and maybe it is impossible for you.

[1320junkie]

How about always having your paper work in order, not have any warrants or do anything to get pulled over? Ignorance of your state laws is not a defense.

[BrianGriffin78]

Originally Posted by Teleplayer

I always wondered why a cop asks "do you know why I pulled you over"? Are they looking for an admission of guilt? I always say I have no idea. Besides, I'm gonna find out in a matter of seconds.

Just don't say this reply...

Officer: Do you know how fast you were going?

Driver: No, you are the one with the radar gun, dummy. You tell me.

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

How about always having your paper work in order, not have any warrants or do anything to get pulled over? Ignorance of your states laws is not a defense.

But Officer, I could of sworn the Speed Limit was 90!

In all seriousness, I have a lot of cop friends and family on the force. Some cops are A-holes and even my friend and family officers will back this up, lol.

I have learned to just be respectful and polite.

[PieNsky]

Originally Posted by patriotpa

If they look like this:


Sure! Why not?

Assume the position

[ShAgMaN]

Originally Posted by PieNsky

Assume the position

Kinda scary with that nightstick in her hand.

[HeroNtheShadows]

Originally Posted by shroomjohn

Well I hope they drop the law its stupid here in Mo you only have to have the front plate no rear. I mean mosted people do but if you dont its no big deal youd think they rather have the back plate I mean if someone commits a crime a drives away you go to look at his plate and your like oh ya I live in Mo LOL

I'm a cop in Kansas city, mo and actually u are required to have BOTH plates unless ur Trailerimg GVW is 26,001lbs + then u only need a front plate. I wouldn't mind them changing it tho