The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[2010 SSRS]

Originally Posted by ron10

mustangs,i love mustangs.i used to have one.had to get rid of him though,he kept crapping all over the place.

[305pride]

the pony cars of the future will be too fast and therefore cost way more then what a pony car should be :( what evs. its guna keep going untill camaros, and mustangs turn into super sports cars :-P

[avro206]

Nice to see that after years of dominace that Ford came up with some great engines--that don't need superchargers.

I doubt a 2011 Camaro will have any increase. Look back over the years---it was never every single year.

Looking at the power to weight ratio I think the Mustang will have a small edge and beat it out.

That will not affect people in the market for a Camaro though.

[ssump29]

Originally Posted by avro206

Nice to see that after years of dominace that Ford came up with some great engines--that don't need superchargers.

I doubt a 2011 Camaro will have any increase. Look back over the years---it was never every single year.

Looking at the power to weight ratio I think the Mustang will have a small edge and beat it out.

That will not affect people in the market for a Camaro though.

You keep saying the power to weight ratio but have you even calculated out how much better it is. It isn't even equal to one, acutally its less then one so no real power to weight ratio and if you need the numbers I will post it up for you. I'll post them anyway.

So the Camaro weights 3849 and the Mustang weights 3603. Ok here the next thing the Camaro has 426hp and 420tq and the Stang has 412 hp and 390tq. So by doing the math for the Camaro for every 9.035211268 pounds it puts out 1hp and for the Stang for every 8.74515631 pounds it puts out 1hp. Now we can see that the lower number is better but not much better only by .2900549576 of a lb. So that advantage of weight to power everyone likes to talk about is really void considering it isn't even a 1lb advantage hell its not even a half of pound.

So on to the next aspect of the cars. The TQ advantage goes to the camaro. For every 9.164285714 pounds that equal to 1TQ on the camaro. For the stang every 9.238461538 pounds is equal to 1TQ. Once again the low number is better and this time goes to the camaro by .074175824. So that advantage is also void since its not even close to being greater then 1. So in the end the logic thing to conclude here is that neither is faster then the other and in the end it will come down to which hooks up better and who's drag co is better.

My point is why does everyone assume that the Mustang is just going to be faster since it has the lower weight but not the same power ratings. In the end it looks like the cars are each other equals and just by looking at the hard numbers you can see there isn't any real advantage going to one car or the other. Anyone who says otherwise is just being bias because the numbers and solutions to the equations don't lie and tell a story of equal similarity.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by ssump29

You keep saying the power to weight ratio but have you even calculated out how much better it is. It isn't even equal to one, acutally its less then one so no real power to weight ratio and if you need the numbers I will post it up for you. I'll post them anyway.

So the Camaro weights 3849 and the Mustang weights 3603. Ok here the next thing the Camaro has 426hp and 420tq and the Stang has 412 hp and 390tq. So by doing the math for the Camaro for every 9.035211268 pounds it puts out 1hp and for the Stang for every 8.74515631 pounds it puts out 1hp. Now we can see that the lower number is better but not much better only by .2900549576 of a lb. So that advantage of weight to power everyone likes to talk about is really void considering it isn't even a 1lb advantage hell its not even a half of pound.

So on to the next aspect of the cars. The TQ advantage goes to the camaro. For every 9.164285714 pounds that equal to 1TQ on the camaro. For the stang every 9.238461538 pounds is equal to 1TQ. Once again the low number is better and this time goes to the camaro by .074175824. So that advantage is also void since its not even close to being greater then 1. So in the end the logic thing to conclude here is that neither is faster then the other and in the end it will come down to which hooks up better and who's drag co is better.

My point is why does everyone assume that the Mustang is just going to be faster since it has the lower weight but not the same power ratings. In the end it looks like the cars are each other equals and just by looking at the hard numbers you can see there isn't any real advantage going to one car or the other. Anyone who says otherwise is just being bias because the numbers and solutions to the equations don't lie and tell a story of equal similarity.

What about gear ratios? Rear end ratios? tire height? etc, etc. If I am not mistaken the Mustang has advantages in basiclly all of these categories?

[Blownhotrodder]

They should have never left the pushrod motors.

[305pride]

Originally Posted by coolman

pushrods are weak and inefficient. good riddance.

what kind of engine are they using? i didnt read what specific engine it is that they put in lol

[305pride]

i remember when i was in mechanics in high school. my teacher had a corvette engine and he was teaching us about it. im getting off topic but why do people hate push rods so much? you guys think that gm will ever stop putting a pushrod in the corvette?... never mind i just wiki'ed it and read about its limitations lol

[esperman]

well I for one am glad the Ford boys finally got some engines to brag about. Welcome to the 21st century fellas!

[Muscle Master]

I find it funny that Ford engineers don't need to shut off 4 cylinders to get good mileage with an auto ... compared to GM lol

[camarowa]

Originally Posted by 2010SLVRBULIT

tail end still looks like crap though

[G8GT4now]

If Ford can get 412HP out of 5.0 liters, surely Chevy can get more than 422HP out of 6.2 liters!

[Muscle Master]

Originally Posted by G8GT4now

If Ford can get 412HP out of 5.0 liters, surely Chevy can get more than 422HP out of 6.2 liters!

Not just that simple

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by G8GT4now

If Ford can get 412HP out of 5.0 liters, surely Chevy can get more than 422HP out of 6.2 liters!

They can and do, just look at the c6!