NEW YEARS RESOLUTION WEIGHT LOSS THREAD 2012

[CFD]

Originally Posted by camaroitalia

I am glad everything is looking good!

The last part made me laugh lol keep up the great work!

Sorry I created a carb argument on here lol I try to get some in every day though my amounts may be low.

I was looking at gatorade's today online and they have some low calorie versions, I may take a look for that the next time I go to the store. I'll have a shot of that with a protein source before a workout like you mentioned. Less calories than a banana, the one I saw is called G Series Fit. Here is the info on it:
Serving Size: 8oz (1 cup)
Calories:10
Fat:0
Sodium:110mg
Potassium:30mg
Carbs:2
Sugars:2
Protein:0

What is your opinion on this? Would this give me what I need as to assist with a pre workout combined with a protein source?
http://www.gatorade.com/default.aspx...=g-fit-perform

Diet/Workouts today:

8:15am Oatmeal with cinnamon, Spoon of Natural Peanut Butter

*class*

12:30pm Grilled Chicken, Brown Rice

1:00pm 3 mile walk

2:00pm Ground Beef (not much, pretty much just a taste)

3:00pm Mile run on treadmill (finally hit my goal of below a 12:30 time! ), mixture of different workouts

4:00pm 1 Mile walk

4:30pm Grilled Chicken and whole Green Beans

*walk another 2 miles tonight*

This is starting to look much better. I very much like the idea of the complex starchy carbs earlier in the day and viberous carbs later. You can substitute ground beef for ground buffalo/bison and also adding a little more healthy fat would be great.

A good pre workout drink would be orange gatorade and a scoop of vanilla protein powder. I've tried the gatorade g series. I got a container that was orange assuming it was orange flavored, I was wrong lol. Tasted like crap with the vanilla protein. The regular gatorade is fine if you choose to try this drink.

[Speedy1975]

Watch out for the Gatorade...8oz has 14gr of sugar. 8oz is about a coffee cup's worth and I know they like to sell it in quart containers which would be 56gr of pure sugar.

Not sure what the low sugar (5gr per 8oz) is sweetened with, but it might be a better option. The crossfit gal is giving me hell for drinking diet mtn dew, she calls it a bottle of chemicals, so if the low sugar gatorade is the same way......I've not had gatorade in years, so if it's just water and some other stuff disregard. I tried to look online at the G Series Fit for ingredients but they don't show it on their site.

[midnighter]

Wow, these are some complicated diets on this thread. I keep it simple during the weight loss period and once I am at my goal weight, I start adjusting calories in vs. calories out, carbs, proteins, etc. My support goes out to all of you in hopes of a successful dieting experience no matter what method you are using. I am only 13 lbs away from my goal weight of 185 lbs.

(228 lbs April 1, 2012 /198 lbs May 8, 2012= 30 lbs dropped in 5 weeks)

[camaroitalia]

Ok I will prob go with the G Fit Series because it is less calories and have that with grilled chicken as a pre workout meal.
(on a lower calorie diet)
I could not find ingredients either but the G Fit was only 2g sugar per 8oz which is not much, honestly if I were to drink it I would have half a cup gatorade then the rest water before a workout.

I only have chocolate protein powder but orange mixed with the vanilla sounds awesome or any fruit flavor really lol. When I am in the market for new protein I may get a small container of vanilla, I have never tried that before.

And I actually just started incorporating weights yesterday with a protein shake afterwards! I use to weight lift everyday, and was putting up really good numbers but I weighed 300+, I never watched what I ate then after graduation I stopped lifting all together due to not having a weight room. Now I am mainly focusing on cardio to lose all the weight, I am basically at the weight I want to be but I still have my stomach! If I could lose that I would be very happy. So now I am incorporating weights with higher amounts of protein on MWF with some light cardio and more cardio/aerobic excercises TT then incorporating what I can on weekends. I am hoping I can start training my muscles again and hopefully get stronger but while still losing weight (more calories out than in).

How does ground buffalo/bison compare to beef? I prefer to eat ground beef (which is not very often) in the 97% or 93% lean.

Again, I appreciate all the great advice in this thread from you all. I am getting my diet better everyday from all the help and experience here. I give you guys credit for helping change my life.

[Speedy1975]

Wow midnighter....30 lbs in 5 weeks is A LOT man. That's almost a pound a day...be careful there. You really don't wanna lose more than 2 lbs a week max I'm thinking.

Cool, I like the weight lifting MWF and cardio T/TH. That's pretty much exactly what I'm doing right now as well.

[camaroitalia]

Originally Posted by midnighter

Wow, these are some complicated diets on this thread. I keep it simple during the weight loss period and once I am at my goal weight, I start adjusting calories in vs. calories out, carbs, proteins, etc. My support goes out to all of you in hopes of a successful dieting experience no matter what method you are using. I am only 13 lbs away from my goal weight of 185 lbs.

(228 lbs April 1, 2012 /198 lbs May 8, 2012= 30 lbs dropped in 5 weeks)

Congrats! I just hit 185 pounds Monday morning from 305 pounds!
(Oct 30, 2011) little over 6 months!

[midnighter]

Originally Posted by camaroitalia

Congrats! I just hit 185 pounds Monday morning from 305 pounds!
(Oct 30, 2011) little over 6 months!

Totally Awesome job!!! I have lost 2 family member from diabetes from obesity and it scares the food cravings out of me to realize they were around my age (38-43) and were once very slim. It doesn't take much to develop health problems from eating bad and in excess. Keep healthy

[CFD]

Originally Posted by camaroitalia

Ok I will prob go with the G Fit Series because it is less calories and have that with grilled chicken as a pre workout meal.
(on a lower calorie diet)
I could not find ingredients either but the G Fit was only 2g sugar per 8oz which is not much, honestly if I were to drink it I would have half a cup gatorade then the rest water before a workout.

I only have chocolate protein powder but orange mixed with the vanilla sounds awesome or any fruit flavor really lol. When I am in the market for new protein I may get a small container of vanilla, I have never tried that before.

And I actually just started incorporating weights yesterday with a protein shake afterwards! I use to weight lift everyday, and was putting up really good numbers but I weighed 300+, I never watched what I ate then after graduation I stopped lifting all together due to not having a weight room. Now I am mainly focusing on cardio to lose all the weight, I am basically at the weight I want to be but I still have my stomach! If I could lose that I would be very happy. So now I am incorporating weights with higher amounts of protein on MWF with some light cardio and more cardio/aerobic excercises TT then incorporating what I can on weekends. I am hoping I can start training my muscles again and hopefully get stronger but while still losing weight (more calories out than in).

How does ground buffalo/bison compare to beef? I prefer to eat ground beef (which is not very often) in the 97% or 93% lean.

Again, I appreciate all the great advice in this thread from you all. I am getting my diet better everyday from all the help and experience here. I give you guys credit for helping change my life.

As I mentioned before. I am very much in favor of controlling insulin spikes and avoid most sugars. The exception is in a pre workout drink. The rise in insulin along with protein intake gets it into the blood stream fast to fuel your workout and provide protein to the muscles. Gatorade is absorbed quickly,and has replenishing electrolytes . This is the only time I feel a fast rise in insulin is usefull. You would consume this about 20 min prior to workout.

If you are going to eat a meal for pre workout chicken and white rice or white potatoes would also serve the purpose. I prefer a pre workout drink and post workout meal myself. Again I would always choose brown rice or yams except pre or post workout. By pre/post I mean within 20 min or it's effectiveness has little inpact and you are spiking your insulin with no purpose which is what we don't want to do.

Vanilla protein powder is more usefull than chocolate as you can add a scoop with your morning oatmeal, it enhances the flavor and will give you more protein intake. It can also be used in more drinks or recipies.Protein is very important and sometimes it is easier to suppliment it than eat it. But when ever possible it is better to eat it.


Buffalo is much higher in protein than 93% lean beef and has much less saturated fat. I don't know if you have seen the recipie I posted for Bison burgers but they are very well balance and taste great. I make a few and freeze them, then I can nuke them for an instant meal.

If you're making pre-workout drinks or protein shakes, smoothies etc. use a little water and a handful of ice cubes and blend, it volumizes it and drinking cold fluids actually burns more cals as it requiresmore cals to bring the bodies core temp back up.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by camaroitalia

Ok I will prob go with the G Fit Series because it is less calories and have that with grilled chicken as a pre workout meal.
(on a lower calorie diet)
I could not find ingredients either but the G Fit was only 2g sugar per 8oz which is not much, honestly if I were to drink it I would have half a cup gatorade then the rest water before a workout.

I only have chocolate protein powder but orange mixed with the vanilla sounds awesome or any fruit flavor really lol. When I am in the market for new protein I may get a small container of vanilla, I have never tried that before.

And I actually just started incorporating weights yesterday with a protein shake afterwards! I use to weight lift everyday, and was putting up really good numbers but I weighed 300+, I never watched what I ate then after graduation I stopped lifting all together due to not having a weight room. Now I am mainly focusing on cardio to lose all the weight, I am basically at the weight I want to be but I still have my stomach! If I could lose that I would be very happy. So now I am incorporating weights with higher amounts of protein on MWF with some light cardio and more cardio/aerobic excercises TT then incorporating what I can on weekends. I am hoping I can start training my muscles again and hopefully get stronger but while still losing weight (more calories out than in).

How does ground buffalo/bison compare to beef? I prefer to eat ground beef (which is not very often) in the 97% or 93% lean.

Again, I appreciate all the great advice in this thread from you all. I am getting my diet better everyday from all the help and experience here. I give you guys credit for helping change my life.

I'm very pleased to see you starting with the weights, it is more valueable in fat loss than most realize and a body with muscle tone(lbm) is much more healthy and looks pretty good as well.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

Watch out for the Gatorade...8oz has 14gr of sugar. 8oz is about a coffee cup's worth and I know they like to sell it in quart containers which would be 56gr of pure sugar.

Not sure what the low sugar (5gr per 8oz) is sweetened with, but it might be a better option. The crossfit gal is giving me hell for drinking diet mtn dew, she calls it a bottle of chemicals, so if the low sugar gatorade is the same way......I've not had gatorade in years, so if it's just water and some other stuff disregard. I tried to look online at the G Series Fit for ingredients but they don't show it on their site.

Gatorade does not use refined sugars and I believe uses sucralose not sucrose.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by midnighter

Wow, these are some complicated diets on this thread. I keep it simple during the weight loss period and once I am at my goal weight, I start adjusting calories in vs. calories out, carbs, proteins, etc. My support goes out to all of you in hopes of a successful dieting experience no matter what method you are using. I am only 13 lbs away from my goal weight of 185 lbs.

(228 lbs April 1, 2012 /198 lbs May 8, 2012= 30 lbs dropped in 5 weeks)

As speedy said that's rapid weight loss. More than what is recomended as healthy. The important thing is it fat loss or weight loss.

I never thought of these diets as complicated. Eat lean proteins, low GI carbs and healthy fats. Kind of simple actually.

[kalimus]

Diets only seem complicated because everyone does theirs a little differently, as all our bodies work a little different. For instance, I completely disagree with simple sugars pre-workout. Rise in insulin makes your body slow down/stop burning fat, and I personally will get a crash part way through my workout. I'm very for simple sugars POST workout. Rise in insulin does stop the fat burning process, but also shuttles nutrients to your muscles. So that whey protein will "shoot through your body" faster. Added to that your body is starving for energy after a workout, so it will just replenish glycogen stores. A little simple sugar won't be enough for your body to store. I don't do it when I'm cutting, but when I'm trying to put on weight, I tend to have a snickers bar after I lift But different thought processes and reasons. And Speedy hit it right on the nose about your protein intake. It all depends on how much fat-free mass your body has, but for a man, 30-40g protein every 2-3 hours is what you should be shooting for.

30 pounds in five weeks is way too much, unless you're very, very overweight right now. Like CFD said, weight loss and fat loss are not the same thing. If you lose too much too quickly, you will lose a lot more muscle with that fat... and muscle mass is what makes your body anabolic. And what I mean, is that fat doesn't burn calories, muscle does. That's why people with a large muscle mass need to eat more calories to maintain it. The more muscle you lose, the less calories you need, which in turn means your body needs less calories. And put that all together, you'll still have fat, but with less muscle needing energy, which makes fat loss that much harder.

As for your question about ground beef... as long at it's lean (93/7 or so), it should be a part of your diet, even while cutting. It's a natural source of CLA, which is a fatty acid that assists in your body's ability to process/digest/burn fat. I actually take it as a supplement as well right now. You might not want to eat it every day, but I eat a small portion of it 3-4 times a week. Usually in 4-5 oz portions with spaghetti. And the rest of your diet doesn't have a lot of fat, so you're good. Remember, that if you don't get enough fat in your diet, your body simply will not be able to process your stored fat either. Speedy's type diet won't have that issue, because he's low carbs, but higher in fat (nuts and the like have LOTS of very healthy fat). But people on a very low fat diet will often struggle to burn bodyfat that is stored. In a balanced diet that has all 3 macronutrients, you should be looking for at least 20% of your daily calories to come from dietary fats

[camaroitalia]

What are some low calorie healthy fat foods you recomend besides natty pb?
Almonds are 160 cal a serving which equals out to about 5-6 cal a piece.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by kalimus

Diets only seem complicated because everyone does theirs a little differently, as all our bodies work a little different. For instance, I completely disagree with simple sugars pre-workout. Rise in insulin makes your body slow down/stop burning fat, and I personally will get a crash part way through my workout. I'm very for simple sugars POST workout. Rise in insulin does stop the fat burning process, but also shuttles nutrients to your muscles. So that whey protein will "shoot through your body" faster. Added to that your body is starving for energy after a workout, so it will just replenish glycogen stores. A little simple sugar won't be enough for your body to store. I don't do it when I'm cutting, but when I'm trying to put on weight, I tend to have a snickers bar after I lift But different thought processes and reasons. And Speedy hit it right on the nose about your protein intake. It all depends on how much fat-free mass your body has, but for a man, 30-40g protein every 2-3 hours is what you should be shooting for.

30 pounds in five weeks is way too much, unless you're very, very overweight right now. Like CFD said, weight loss and fat loss are not the same thing. If you lose too much too quickly, you will lose a lot more muscle with that fat... and muscle mass is what makes your body anabolic. And what I mean, is that fat doesn't burn calories, muscle does. That's why people with a large muscle mass need to eat more calories to maintain it. The more muscle you lose, the less calories you need, which in turn means your body needs less calories. And put that all together, you'll still have fat, but with less muscle needing energy, which makes fat loss that much harder.

As for your question about ground beef... as long at it's lean (93/7 or so), it should be a part of your diet, even while cutting. It's a natural source of CLA, which is a fatty acid that assists in your body's ability to process/digest/burn fat. I actually take it as a supplement as well right now. You might not want to eat it every day, but I eat a small portion of it 3-4 times a week. Usually in 4-5 oz portions with spaghetti. And the rest of your diet doesn't have a lot of fat, so you're good. Remember, that if you don't get enough fat in your diet, your body simply will not be able to process your stored fat either. Speedy's type diet won't have that issue, because he's low carbs, but higher in fat (nuts and the like have LOTS of very healthy fat). But people on a very low fat diet will often struggle to burn bodyfat that is stored. In a balanced diet that has all 3 macronutrients, you should be looking for at least 20% of your daily calories to come from dietary fats

Some people can't tolerate sugars before workouts, it sometimes can cause nausea. I personally use 1 serving(4g) pure dextrose(corn sugar) with 2 scoops weigh protein and water. Dextrose has 15 cals, 4g carbs and 4g sugar per serving. I drink a portion before working out and sip the rest during my workout as well as drinking several bottles of water, then cool down shower and eat my post workout meal, usually chicken and rice or potatoes. I also workout around 12:30 so this fits right in with my carb tapering. This is only during lifting days not cardio days.

I usually get my healthy fats by using flax seed in my oatmeal, olive oil in cooking, avacardo in my salads, salmon and when I suppliment with Udo's choice. Udo's is an excellent balance of omega 3's 6's. One thing that some are not aware of is the ratio of 3's and 6's is important and Udo's is the most effective ratio.


Here is a nutritional comparison between bison, beef and chicken. Bison/buffalo is very impressive nutritionally.

Bison meat is very lean and has become popular in supermarkets. It contains far fewer calories and cholesterol than either beef or chicken. For example, bison meat contains 2.42 g. fat, 143 calories, and 82 mg. of cholesterol per 100 grams of cooked meat. By comparison, beef has 9.28 g. fat, 211 calories, and 86 g. cholesterol. Skinless chicken contains 7.41 grams of fat, 190 calories, and 89 mg. of cholesterol

All fats are calorie dense above are some good choices other than nuts