2017 NFL Season Talk

[arod55]

Originally Posted by mlee

My season is complete no matter what happens going forward...

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MLee I have to agree with you, even thought I hate the Charger ownership for leaving San Diego, I still love my Chargers. They are starting to peek at the right time when the AFC West teams are on a down trend.

Go Chargers!!!!

[Joe M 2012 2SS]

Originally Posted by Kenny Camaro

Joe, you always have a well thought out analysis of nearly all the comments you make and you almost always make valid points. But you see the hard facts of the schedule and the Falcons plight this season, I see the Lions through a forty year lens of repeated failures and disappointments. The Lions will not make the playoffs this year. I will bet money on that.

You want to talk disappointments? ATL had a 28-3 lead in the super bowl last year with 8:31 left in the 3rd quarter. They had run the ball successfully the entire game up to this point! But abandoned the run completely with this lead!

On 3rd and 1 what does Shanahan dial up? A deep drop, which results in a strip sack! WTF??? You have a 25 point lead! Run the damn ball! If you don't get the 1st, so what. Burn the clock, and punt.

Every possession ATL has the rest of the game burns no clock at all!

Then in the 4th quarter with 4:38 seconds left, Julio Jones makes an unbelievable catch on the NE 21. ATL is up 8. Matt Bryant had not missed a FG inside 45 yards THE ENTIRE SEASON!

1st play is a run which loses 1 yard, no big deal, burn the clock and run it twice more. Kick the FG and win the SB. BUT NO, lets do a DEEP drop on 2nd and 11 and take a sack!

OK were still in Bryant's range. Run the damn ball Shanahan!!! Nope, another deep drop and a holding call and were out of FG range. 3rd and 33. Incomplete pass. Not only did we blow the chance to put the game away with a FG, we burnt NO CLOCK!

Here Tom Brady, have the ball, we don't want to win the SB, we want to lose.

[3 SS's]

As far as not missing fieldgoals......I'll just leave this right here...

[Joe M 2012 2SS]

Originally Posted by 3 SS's

As far as not missing fieldgoals......I'll just leave this right here...

Oh I understand now, since Gary Anderson missed the FG after a perfect season, (Bryant's 2016 season was not perfect, he had a miss from 54 yards during the regular season) this means that 100% Bryant was going to miss, if given the chance, because Gary Anderson did.

[3 SS's]

LOL, is that what you got out of that ?? let me slow it down for you......nothing is a given!
Just like "if Carrol ran the ball the Seahawks would have scored", FYI.....Lynch had been stuffed 4 of 5 attempts from the 1 on first and goal in 2014.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by 3 SS's

LOL, is that what you got out of that ?? let me slow it down for you......nothing is a given!
Just like "if Carrol ran the ball the Seahawks would have scored", FYI.....Lynch had been stuffed 4 of 5 attempts from the 1 on first and goal in 2014.

Bro, that doesn't even make sense. Lets just make up how the game went.

seattle, being down 4 points. started the drive on their 20. Wilson passed the ball every down, until they got to the NE 5. Lynch I guess got stuffed 4 of 5 attempts on 1 run play that gained 4 yards, to get seattle to the 1yd line. 2nd down, 1 yard to go, int.


Or are you talking about during the whole game? Want to know how many times Lynch got the ball on NE 1 yard line....zero...

[PoorMansCamaro]

Lets just go with Patriot fan lala-fantasy-land, and somehow Lynch gets stuffed 4 of 5 attempts from the NE 1. The guy had over 100yds rushing. he's called beast mode. I don't care if he got stuffed 24 out of 25 attempts from the 1 yard line. 2nd down and 1 yard to go. you give him the ball.

[Joe M 2012 2SS]

Originally Posted by 3 SS's

LOL, is that what you got out of that ?? let me slow it down for you......nothing is a given!
Just like "if Carrol ran the ball the Seahawks would have scored", FYI.....Lynch had been stuffed 4 of 5 attempts from the 1 on first and goal in 2014.

I'll tell you what is 100%, this statement of yours is proof that you don't understand anything about situational football.

You go with the play that has the best percentage of winning the game, when your in position to put it away.

While no, it's not 100%, it's 98% plus in both cases. Going with a play that has a lower percentage of success is just plain idiotic.

[3 SS's]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Bro, that doesn't even make sense. Lets just make up how the game went.

seattle, being down 4 points. started the drive on their 20. Wilson passed the ball every down, until they got to the NE 5. Lynch I guess got stuffed 4 of 5 attempts on 1 run play that gained 4 yards, to get seattle to the 1yd line. 2nd down, 1 yard to go, int.


Or are you talking about during the whole game? Want to know how many times Lynch got the ball on NE 1 yard line....zero...

Here we go....I'll slow it down for you too, Read it again, I said Lynch got stuffed in 2014 4 of 5 times he had first & goal from the 1...nobody said it was in that game

Originally Posted by Joe M 2012 2SS

I'll tell you what is 100%, this statement of yours is proof that you don't understand anything about situational football.

You go with the play that has the best percentage of winning the game, when your in position to put it away.

While no, it's not 100%, it's 98% plus in both cases. Going with a play that has a lower percentage of success is just plain idiotic.

Situational football walk me through it coach Lol, you obviously weren't a math major....98% in both cases ?? here, once again....Lynch was 1 for 5 in 2014 on first and goal from the 1, get your calculator back out and try again, If you get 98% again throw your calculator away, or....I can walk you through the process. Let me know how you make out.

[Kenny Camaro]

This is getting good ��.......

[PoorMansCamaro]

Lynch had over 100yds in that super bowl. I don’t know if you know this, but what he did in any other games are irrelevant. Do you know who Lynch is? Yeah, he has that reputation of “beast mode” for a reason. 2nd and 1, you take your chances with him. Doesn’t matter if he was 1 for 100. Although if that were the case, he probably wouldn’t be dubbed Beast Mode. Feel me?

Let’s say this, you have a chance of winning a million dollars. You have to pick a run with Lynch or pass with Wilson, on second down. I mean, it’s not that hard. And if you pick pass, well then, you are just as much of a moron as ol Pete.

[Joe M 2012 2SS]

Originally Posted by 3 SS's

Situational football walk me through it coach Lol, you obviously weren't a math major....98% in both cases ?? here, once again....Lynch was 1 for 5 in 2014 on first and goal from the 1, get your calculator back out and try again, If you get 98% again throw your calculator away, or....I can walk you through the process. Let me know how you make out.

Simple 5th grade math, did you attend 5th grade? Percentages.
You have to be able to add, subtract, multiply, and divide.

Instead of doing this, you base what might happen on 4 plays from the season in the Seattle case, when in fact Lynch averaged 4.7 yards per carry during the 2014 season. In this SB, Lynch was not stopped for a negative yard gain THE ENTIRE GAME.

Seattle had enough time on the clock to run two plays, not just one, on second and goal from the one. Lynch gained 5 yards from the 6 on 1st and goal.

So how many times did Lynch fail to net 1 yard on two consecutive running plays in 2014?

Once of 68 times. This is 1.47%. He fumbled once in 280 attempts, this is .357%. So Mr. "I cant do 5th grade math", this comes to 1.827% of the time Lynch runs the ball on two consecutive plays, he wont gain 1 yard. 98.173% success ratio.

Russell Wilson had a 63.1% completion ratio in 2014, which means there is a 36.9% chance this play would not succeed, and he had a 1.5% interception ratio, four times more likely than a Lynch fumble.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what the best option with the highest percentage of success is here. Just someone with the mathematical capacity of a 5th grader.

I have already broken down the ATL percentages in a different thread, which you already read, and didn't understand. No need to do that again.

[Kenny Camaro]

Sizzle.........

[Joe M 2012 2SS]

One other thing ....... based upon 3SS's thought process of Lynch being 1 for 5 from the 1 in 2014. Lets see what the PATS defense did in 2014 against runs from the 1 yard line.

The PATS defense allowed 5 of 6 runs from the 1 in 2014 for touchdowns. So based on the PATS 2014 defensive stops from the 1 against the run, Lynch is getting in 83.3% of the time, on one play.

With two chances from the 1 at the same rate of success, Lynch gets in 94.5% of the time.