[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by SS376

So the hundreds of people on this forum reporting trans issues, headliner issues, windshield fogging issues, etc, etc, etc, are all paid actors? Who knew

Don't give a shit about a few hundred issues when there are tens of thousands of camaros being sold every year. I've never had any issues with my previous 2 Camaro's. NONE. I play %'s in life.

Just like my business. We process over 10,000 clients a year through our software. We have a .01% unreliability rate. Guess what? that's a few hundred clients a year that say my company sux. I'll take that all day and run with it and be proud that only a few hundred clients are unhappy every year.

[sub_ETCS_ret]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Don't give a shit about a few hundred issues when there are tens of thousands of camaros being sold every year. I've never had any issues with my previous 2 Camaro's. NONE. I play %'s in life.

Just like my business. We process over 10,000 clients a year through our software. We have a .01% unreliability rate. Guess what? that's a few hundred clients a year that say my company sux. I'll take that all day and run with it and be proud that only a few hundred clients are unhappy every year.

I don't disagree with your line of thinking but technically when you lose one person, you actually lose several. Those lost customers are going to tell their friends, family, and associates about their experience. The A8 across GM is a major issue.

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[SS376]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Don't give a shit about a few hundred issues when there are tens of thousands of camaros being sold every year. I've never had any issues with my previous 2 Camaro's. NONE. I play %'s in life.

Just like my business. We process over 10,000 clients a year through our software. We have a .01% unreliability rate. Guess what? that's a few hundred clients a year that say my company sux. I'll take that all day and run with it and be proud that only a few hundred clients are unhappy every year.

Nonsense. If such a large percentage of forum members are reporting problems it's an easy extrapolation that there is a similar percentage of the overall much larger Camaro population with issues too. This is how sampling polls and surveys work, and they are usually quite accurate. Add to that the reports coming in from CR and JD Power and the truth becomes obvious to anyone willing to face it.

But anyway, believe what you want and twist the facts in whatever way you wish if it makes you feel better. GM screwed up with some major issues on an otherwise amazing car. Denying it won't fix it.

[SPARTAN sui]

For the most part I love my car. 15,000 miles and no major issues. Though I have the rear end groan and the hard shift from 1-2 randomly that I wish will officially be addressed by GM. I've been told my rear end groan is normal and nothing has been done. It's just annoying more than anything.

[camaro5]

Originally Posted by SPARTAN sui

For the most part I love my car. 15,000 miles and no major issues. Though I have the rear end groan and the hard shift from 1-2 randomly that I wish will officially be addressed by GM. I've been told my rear end groan is normal and nothing has been done. It's just annoying more than anything.

Good to hear, and love that HBM

Put some better gear oil in there - it will help the groan.

Amsoil severe gear is an example.

[BillPriff]

Literally just took my 17 2ss fifty in for “the groan” it’s got 4,000 miles on it and is babied!. Service tech called said there going to flush it and re-program it! Said this was there 3rd Camaro in over the last couple months with the same problem😩. Hopefully this remedies it. Until another 1000 miles and it needs a new torque converter lol

[motorhead]

Everything is crap now a days. It now comes down to whose crap sucks less and how much BS one is willing to deal with until they admit that what they love is in fact crap. Iv'e been off this site for months because I switched to a hellcat (which is crap too). What brought me back was looking for fixes to problems that my father-in-law's 2017 SS is having even before the first service. Im sorry to all the fanboys out there ,but this crap just should not happen. How long has it been since the rear differential has been invented? I would think they should have that part pretty damn reliable by now, but nope, crap.

[sub_ETCS_ret]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Everything is crap now a days. It now comes down to whose crap sucks less and how much BS one is willing to deal with until they admit that what they love is in fact crap. Iv'e been off this site for months because I switched to a hellcat (which is crap too). What brought me back was looking for fixes to problems that my father-in-law's 2017 SS is having even before the first service. Im sorry to all the fanboys out there ,but this crap just should not happen. How long has it been since the rear differential has been invented? I would think they should have that part pretty damn reliable by now, but nope, crap.

What's wrong with the Hellcat? My plan is to dump the Camaro for a Hellcat. I've been reading on their forums and not seeing a bunch of issues. Just curious.

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[motorhead]

Originally Posted by sub_ETCS_ret

What's wrong with the Hellcat? My plan is to dump the Camaro for a Hellcat. I've been reading on their forums and not seeing a bunch of issues. Just curious.

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Its been back for minor things, but things just the same. When you start with a $25,000 hunk of crap as a base, you end up with a $60,000 hunk of crap that hauls ass, so you overlook some of the BS. Thus my statement above.

[kingbambino22]

Originally Posted by IMadeYouReadThis

The most reliable vehicles that General Motors makes come out of their Oshawa Assembly Plant. anything Oshawa make is higher quality than anything Toyota or Honda makes hands down guaranteed. look at how solid the 5th gen Camaro was.

Two of the three 5th gen Camaros I bought broken down. 2010 SS was so bad I traded for a Miata. It literally was spitting water on me through the a/c lol. You know it's bad when your wife (ex wife now) says if something else break we getting rid of it. The 2013 1LE was great. I should have keep it. 2015 Z/28 had he pushing the car down a hill so it can start. Had to give a crash course to my ex on how to start a manual when the starter doesn't work lol. If we didn't have friends in the city it broke, we would have been spending a week in a hotel. As much as I like Camaros, I've been hesitate to buy another one. I miss driving them but I don't miss the problems they had.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by kingbambino22

Two of the three 5th gen Camaros I bought broken down. 2010 SS was so bad I traded for a Miata. It literally was spitting water on me through the a/c lol. You know it's bad when your wife (ex wife now) says if something else break we getting rid of it. The 2013 1LE was great. I should have keep it. 2015 Z/28 had he pushing the car down a hill so it can start. Had to give a crash course to my ex on how to start a manual when the starter doesn't work lol. If we didn't have friends in the city it broke, we would have been spending a week in a hotel. As much as I like Camaros, I've been hesitate to buy another one. I miss driving them but I don't miss the problems they had.

My 2010 was really bad too. To the point that I cringe every time I see the number 2010.

[kingbambino22]

Originally Posted by motorhead

My 2010 was really bad too. To the point that I cringe every time I see the number 2010.

The 2010 didn't even make it to 5000 miles of me owning it 😂😂😂

[Blazin383]

I’m curious, with all of the complaints about the A8 and torque converters etc, how are the A8 transmissions holding up for the guys boosting hp via superchargers etc? Given all of the complaints, it seems like bumping hp from the factory rated 455 to 600 - 700+ would quickly destroy a trans that has issues trying to handle the stock output!

[Cameron27]

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