Dodge Demon Revealed

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

Originally Posted by Sven59

I think because they are both factory made. Just wait till they release the 2019 refreshed ZL1 God.

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Both factory made what?

A factory made race car and a factory made street car... it's not even the same conversation.

So if you are going to bring up things that aren't even the same thing why not go all in and play the John Force Camaro card?

[travislambert]

Originally Posted by catdog

This is a win for the whole muscle car field

That's how I see it.

I have never been a Dodge fan, but we gotta love Dodge for continuing to push the limits.

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by Iron Lung Jimmy

Both factory made what?

A factory made race car and a factory made street car... it's not even the same conversation.

So if you are going to bring up things that aren't even the same thing why not go all in and play the John Force Camaro card?

I said I think, one is street legal, one is not. But they both come from Chevy and Dodge. He built his. I am just guessing. The COPO is the closest thing that chevy builds in relation to purpose. 1/4 mile performance.

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[Kenny Camaro]

Wow....

[RagingHawk]

Originally Posted by crossroaddemons

+1 it's the ability to call yourself king of the street. Of course horsepower is a tough mountain to tackle because someone always has more. It is however what everyone will be compared to. The GT 500 will be nonexistent and the hype around the ZL1 has already been overshadowed for those that think big HP is the only thing most folks understand. The ZL1 will be a great car I am sure. The Demon will be a memorable car bar none!

The GT500 will surpass the ZL1 in hp, because GM's competition doesn't know how to approach the Camaro. They will just go mainstream and bump up power. Mainstream people will then consider them better cars, and it doesn't help that the Camaro has an okay rep in the car community. For whatever reasons, it gets the most hate in the muscle car category.

Ford is employing this strategy with the GT refresh, more HP and copying the design cues of the Camaro. The best all around car is still the Camaro SS. People don't want to admit, and will instead go on about how it's 'ugly'.

[762CAT]

All the dirty details you seek left out from the reveal.....9.90 on pump gas still with the 315s on the front...

http://www.allpar.com/news/2017/04/t...-to-know-37153

[90503]

Unfortunately the Demon, as awesome as it is, cannot be tracked at NHRA tracks....It does not meet the safety requirements for how quick and fast it is....

The Dodge spokesman calls the letter banning the Demon from NHRA tracks a "badge of honor" and adding to it's "street creds".....It may end up the king of the streets, but likely not so much at NHRA tracks.....It sounds like a catch-22 to me....

Good luck to those who buy one.....I think the novelty will wear off real quick...

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

Originally Posted by mkorgan

The reason is that whenever i have brought up the fact that I love the idea of a purpose built drag car, someone brings up the COPO which is just not a valid excuse anymore for GM. Sorry, Dodge just rewrote the book on production performance vehicles. Even took the mantel from TESLA for the quick production 0-60 and by over half a second. Drop the 🎤

I agree.

The Demon is EPIC. A factory stock street car that can pull the front wheels and run 9.65 is mind blowing.

Too bad not everyone can appreciate it.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by 90503

Here's Hot Rod's article...

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/2018-...-makes-840-hp/

It's too fast for NHRA rules Section 4....Banned from competition....COPOs don't have that "problem"....

Not street legal either. Copo still 100K plus.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by mkorgan

Only 69 made, can't be driven on street, and the fastest one is only a second faster than the dodge. COPO is officially old news

Only a second is 10 car lengths and a whole lot more mph.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by 90503

Unfortunately the Demon, as awesome as it is, cannot be tracked at NHRA tracks....It does not meet the safety requirements for how quick and fast it is....

The Dodge spokesman calls the letter banning the Demon from NHRA tracks a "badge of honor" and adding to it's "street creds".....It may end up the king of the streets, but likely not so much at NHRA tracks.....It sounds like a catch-22 to me....

Good luck to those who buy one.....I think the novelty will wear off real quick...

A roll bar isn't that hard to have installed.

[762CAT]

Originally Posted by Sven59

As long as you bring a truck to haul the parts back.

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Don't worry....still has 5 year 60,000 mile power train warranty and 50 state emission approved even on race gas..... the hate is strong on here.

http://www.allpar.com/news/2017/04/t...-to-know-37153

Call a spade a spade....thank God somebody did it. Ballsy move by dodge. Doesn't mean GM sucks. Win for all Muscle car enthusiast in a era of eco boost and hybrids.

[762CAT]

I will say as much as I hated all the marketing and rap music.....one can understand why Dodge does it. It's marketing 101. The Halo car draws attention to the brand and sells cars. That is how SRT gets away with building a limited production middle finger to the rest of the world car. A car built for enthusiasts and collectors that will benefit the companies bottom line.

[DrkPhx]

I think it's great to see the Demon. It's definitely not for everyone, but neither is a hardcore road race car. I was watching the reveal stream and they showed the hits for the Dodge website and FB and they were insane! So maybe not everyone likes it; bu it certainly brought more attention to Dodge.