My RT - Page 11

Speedy1975 · 09-23-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

And how do you fare when you pick on the Mustangs?

So far I'm 2 and 0

. However, I'm not big on street racing, and haven't gone to the track, so I have no times to post or compare.

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Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

Interesting...so my LS1 5.7L makes 379 crank hp?

379 x .85 = 322

That's nuts..

<Shrug> Autos loose a bit more it's said. 18% or so seems to be the common number used.

Speedy1975 · 09-23-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010-1SS-IBM

I'm still floored by how few Challengers are sold. Stylish, roomy (which neither the Camaro nor the Mustang are), with respectable power. Even the price isn't that much for the RT.

I think they're a tad over priced. They look awesome, but when you can get an SS Camaro for about $8K less than the similarly powered Challenger.....

Add to that you see absolutely ZERO marketing for the car, and the fact that Dodge didn't even build sold orders for 2009 and there ya go.

The plant was shut down more times than I can count. Don't quote me on this number, but something like 35,000 total were even built for 2009. We're still trying to get actual production numbers, but they were pretty scarce.

Stew · 09-23-2009, 04:37 PM

The local dealer has a B5 blue blassic and I am in love, pretty sure the Challenger will be my choice when i am ready for my musclecar purchse. Got a question though, have you heard anything about the Mopar coilover suspension? I am interested in this, but it seems pricey and I want to see if it is worth it.

2010-1SS-IBM · 09-23-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy1975

I think they're a tad over priced. They look awesome, but when you can get an SS Camaro for about $8K less than the similarly powered Challenger.....

Add to that you see absolutely ZERO marketing for the car, and the fact that Dodge didn't even build sold orders for 2009 and there ya go.

The plant was shut down more times than I can count. Don't quote me on this number, but something like 35,000 total were even built for 2009. We're still trying to get actual production numbers, but they were pretty scarce.

You're probably right about the price.

I guess I disagree with the cross-shopping argument because I consider the Mustang and Camaro to be essentially 2-seaters, and would expect people with kids/family/whatever to prefer the Challenger. But that's pure speculation.

And yeah, marketing would help.

Speedy1975 · 09-23-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew

The local dealer has a B5 blue blassic and I am in love, pretty sure the Challenger will be my choice when i am ready for my musclecar purchse. Got a question though, have you heard anything about the Mopar coilover suspension? I am interested in this, but it seems pricey and I want to see if it is worth it.

It's just a KW suspension rebadged as Mopar.

You'd be better off to just get Eibach and save a few bucks.

Speedy1975 · 09-23-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010-1SS-IBM

You're probably right about the price.

I guess I disagree with the cross-shopping argument because I consider the Mustang and Camaro to be essentially 2-seaters, and would expect people with kids/family/whatever to prefer the Challenger. But that's pure speculation.

And yeah, marketing would help.

Yeah the Challenger has more rear room than a Mustang or Camaro. My parents have sat comfortably in the back of mine.

The problem is that it's still a coupe' (I like to say coopay like the Top Gear guys haha). Anyway, only the passenger side seat flips forward to allow rear seat access and you have to climb through the seat belt to get in there.

So yes, there's more room, but access is still a bit of a pain. None of these cars are family sedans and someone who purchases one as such will soon be disappointed with the hassle I'd think.

Tal · 09-23-2009, 04:47 PM

Agreed, the Challenger is more comfortable for 4 people but if it's that important I think the buyer is more likely to just bite the bullet and go for a 4-door.

2010-1SS-IBM · 09-23-2009, 04:56 PM

You guys are probably right.

Zeus · 09-23-2009, 04:59 PM

g8 gxp

Stew · 09-23-2009, 05:00 PM

Most families I would expect would go the Charger, particularly a Daytona or SRT-8 as they should per form right with their Challenger counterparts

Stew · 09-23-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

g8 gxp

Only problem with that is I think there are 35 left in the country for sale, which sucks.

Speedy1975 · 09-23-2009, 05:07 PM

Dodge completely screwed the pooch badging the current car a Charger.

Now had it been this...well...

Dakota Kid · 09-23-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy1975

Dodge completely screwed the pooch badging the current car a Charger.

Now had it been this...well...

Honestly, I like that Charger even better than my 2SS, purely from a design perspective...they should kill the Challenger and make the Charger a two door and WINNER!!!! Hell I would buy one right off the lot.

Speedy1975 · 09-23-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

Honestly, I like that Charger even better than my 2SS, purely from a design perspective...they should kill the Challenger and make the Charger a two door and WINNER!!!! Hell I would buy one right off the lot.

I say they should make both.

09-23-2009, 04:37 PM	#143
Stew Drives: 92 Luminadead/01 Dakota/97 F150 4x4 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Eastern, Ky Posts: 3,789	The local dealer has a B5 blue blassic and I am in love, pretty sure the Challenger will be my choice when i am ready for my musclecar purchse. Got a question though, have you heard anything about the Mopar coilover suspension? I am interested in this, but it seems pricey and I want to see if it is worth it.

09-23-2009, 04:47 PM	#147
Tal Drives: Old Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: OK Posts: 726	Agreed, the Challenger is more comfortable for 4 people but if it's that important I think the buyer is more likely to just bite the bullet and go for a 4-door.

09-23-2009, 04:56 PM	#148
2010-1SS-IBM Drives: 1998 Nissan, 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 827	You guys are probably right.

09-23-2009, 04:59 PM	#149
Zeus BOOOOOM MF'R!! Drives: to Chipotle daily Join Date: May 2009 Location: Flo-Rida Posts: 3,614	g8 gxp

09-23-2009, 05:00 PM	#150
Stew Drives: 92 Luminadead/01 Dakota/97 F150 4x4 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Eastern, Ky Posts: 3,789	Most families I would expect would go the Charger, particularly a Daytona or SRT-8 as they should per form right with their Challenger counterparts

09-23-2009, 05:07 PM	#152
Speedy1975 FASTER! Drives: Challenger Hellcat, 2SS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 2,244	Dodge completely screwed the pooch badging the current car a Charger. Now had it been this...well...