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robrocketanski · 02-26-2017, 03:38 PM

So my wheels spin inside my tires. I have looked a lot for solutions other than beadlocks but in the end I am OK with getting beadlocks if I have to.

My question is though, should I need to? I see other cars putting down more power and better times without beadlocks. What else could be going on? I am about to buy a new set of wheels and tires so I need to make a decision soon.

Previous set up is automatic convertible on 18x11 Foregstar F14 with MT Street R 305/45/18 doing 10.8x with 1.6-7 60 foot times. I had 315/40/18 05Rs previous and this wasn't a problem but those tires would break loose, MT are stickier.

I will have at least 50 more whp this season and planning to go to 305/45/17 Street R

BEaSSy · 02-26-2017, 03:55 PM

We had that problem last year with 18in wheels....we remounted with-out soap (DRY) and let set pumped up 35ish lbs or so for about 3 or 4 days...didn't move afterwards...now we have Welds 17' and run MT ET R's with no problem @18lbs...Hope that helps.

FYI...when ours did move they would move 2 to 3in per pass...not good IMO!

robrocketanski · 02-26-2017, 04:03 PM

I know these were mounted with plenty of lube of some type. I was thinking that maybe they just never stopped being slippery in the bead.

I am just nervous about buying wheels and then having to buy again if they spin.

They moved half way around the tire after a day at the track.

BEaSSy · 02-26-2017, 04:23 PM

I would remount dry and see what happens....

Pro Stock John · 02-26-2017, 05:34 PM

Never had this problem good luck though.

2013 ZL1 #7860 · 02-27-2017, 07:05 AM

Mount them dry.

Motorboy8769 · 02-28-2017, 07:02 PM

What kind of rims? I have welds with tubes and I just used rim screws.

Netraa · 03-01-2017, 04:27 PM

Didn't Chevy have to media blast the bead area of the wheels on the Z28 to keep the tires from turning on the wheels.... this might be an option.

ZX1truth · 03-04-2017, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netraa

Didn't Chevy have to media blast the bead area of the wheels on the Z28 to keep the tires from turning on the wheels.... this might be an option.

That is genius.

SnowyCamaro · 03-04-2017, 09:27 PM

Mount dry if doesn't work...

Etch the inner portion of the rim where the bead holds with grinder or dremel. And mount dry, before you put pressure to the tire heat rubber with blow torch or heat gun (a little!), let sit for few days at max allowable pressure. Store tires when not in use at high pressure.

ron123 · 03-05-2017, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netraa

Didn't Chevy have to media blast the bead area of the wheels on the Z28 to keep the tires from turning on the wheels.... this might be an option.

Bingo - This bead area solution that Chevy did was announced in March 2014. Implemented racing solution.
Mark Stielow, Z28 Program Manager, talks about the problem/solution in the video in this article:
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/03/...lippage-video/

Ron

Pollock · 03-22-2017, 06:33 PM

Back when my dad and I had an all out drag car. We just drilled the rims and added screws into the tire. Kinda a home made beadlock. But that is what everyone else did too. That was done with slicks to.

WoodBoss · 03-30-2017, 09:39 AM

Remount dry, clean the beads and rim, mounting dry and use bead sealer.

02-26-2017, 03:38 PM	#1
robrocketanski Drives: ZL1 Convertible Auto Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Macomb, Michigan Posts: 330	My wheels spin (attempt 2) So my wheels spin inside my tires. I have looked a lot for solutions other than beadlocks but in the end I am OK with getting beadlocks if I have to. My question is though, should I need to? I see other cars putting down more power and better times without beadlocks. What else could be going on? I am about to buy a new set of wheels and tires so I need to make a decision soon. Previous set up is automatic convertible on 18x11 Foregstar F14 with MT Street R 305/45/18 doing 10.8x with 1.6-7 60 foot times. I had 315/40/18 05Rs previous and this wasn't a problem but those tires would break loose, MT are stickier. I will have at least 50 more whp this season and planning to go to 305/45/17 Street R __________________ LS3 intake and throttle body, Huron Speed Products twin turbo with 6265 oil less turbos, and 3" header back, JRE smooth cam, ID1300, Fore dual 450lph pumps with MSD voltage booster, A6, 305/45/17 MT Street R

02-26-2017, 03:55 PM	#2
BEaSSy Drives: 2014 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Pikeville NC Posts: 105	We had that problem last year with 18in wheels....we remounted with-out soap (DRY) and let set pumped up 35ish lbs or so for about 3 or 4 days...didn't move afterwards...now we have Welds 17' and run MT ET R's with no problem @18lbs...Hope that helps. FYI...when ours did move they would move 2 to 3in per pass...not good IMO! __________________ 2014 2SS/RS TH400 Swap, CAI Cold Air Intake, SW LT's, PTB, GPI Intake Mod, Circle D Converter, DSS 9in conversion and Gears, GPI Cam and Heads..Tuned by "Ryan" GPI

02-26-2017, 04:03 PM	#3
robrocketanski Drives: ZL1 Convertible Auto Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Macomb, Michigan Posts: 330	I know these were mounted with plenty of lube of some type. I was thinking that maybe they just never stopped being slippery in the bead. I am just nervous about buying wheels and then having to buy again if they spin. They moved half way around the tire after a day at the track. __________________ LS3 intake and throttle body, Huron Speed Products twin turbo with 6265 oil less turbos, and 3" header back, JRE smooth cam, ID1300, Fore dual 450lph pumps with MSD voltage booster, A6, 305/45/17 MT Street R

02-26-2017, 04:23 PM	#4
BEaSSy Drives: 2014 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Pikeville NC Posts: 105	I would remount dry and see what happens.... __________________ 2014 2SS/RS TH400 Swap, CAI Cold Air Intake, SW LT's, PTB, GPI Intake Mod, Circle D Converter, DSS 9in conversion and Gears, GPI Cam and Heads..Tuned by "Ryan" GPI

02-26-2017, 05:34 PM	#5
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	Never had this problem good luck though. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

02-27-2017, 07:05 AM	#6
2013 ZL1 #7860 Drives: 2013 ZL1 A6 #7860 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: CO, USA Posts: 1,279	Mount them dry.

02-28-2017, 07:02 PM	#7
Motorboy8769 Drives: 2015 2ss Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Wooster ohio Posts: 586	What kind of rims? I have welds with tubes and I just used rim screws.

03-01-2017, 04:27 PM	#8
Netraa Drives: 2014 2ss/rs Join Date: May 2012 Location: New Braunfels, Texas Posts: 293	Didn't Chevy have to media blast the bead area of the wheels on the Z28 to keep the tires from turning on the wheels.... this might be an option.

03-04-2017, 09:27 PM	#10
SnowyCamaro Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1, 2006 Chevy Equinox Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 833	Mount dry if doesn't work... Etch the inner portion of the rim where the bead holds with grinder or dremel. And mount dry, before you put pressure to the tire heat rubber with blow torch or heat gun (a little!), let sit for few days at max allowable pressure. Store tires when not in use at high pressure. __________________

03-22-2017, 06:33 PM	#12
Pollock LT4 M6 Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Bloomington, IN Posts: 1,249	Back when my dad and I had an all out drag car. We just drilled the rims and added screws into the tire. Kinda a home made beadlock. But that is what everyone else did too. That was done with slicks to.

03-30-2017, 09:39 AM	#13
WoodBoss "Old School" Drives: 2010 2SS L99 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sherrills Ford, NC Posts: 1,295	Remount dry, clean the beads and rim, mounting dry and use bead sealer.