New DD: 2016 Golf R

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C&D got 4.5/13.2: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-r-test-review

MT got 4.5/13.1: http://www.motortrend.com/news/2015-...-r-first-test/

[DRKS1D3]

Originally Posted by fldrummer

C&D got 4.5/13.2: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-r-test-review

MT got 4.5/13.1: http://www.motortrend.com/news/2015-...-r-first-test/

Impressive. Must be a pretty fast shifting auto to make up for the 60hp deficiency.

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Originally Posted by DRKS1D3

Impressive. Must be a pretty fast shifting auto to make up for the 60hp deficiency.

Indeed, it is! The best manually-shifted R times I've seen are around 5.2 seconds--a full 0.7 of a second slower! I test-drove one of those too--buttery smooth and light, but the factory clutches on them are known to be weak. Plus, I already have one manual car to drive and don't need two.

[Royal Tiger]

Originally Posted by fldrummer

To each their own. The only thing I like about the STI is its better AWD system. What I don't like about the STI: Boy-racer exterior, drab interior, no torque (have to do a clutch drop at high RPMs for a decent launch), no more hatchback option.

Absolutely agree with you. I'm not a fan of the newest body style. I miss the older WRX's. Subarus are just uber reliable and their AWD is killer. Toyota needs a hopped up Celica AWD again.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by DRKS1D3

Impressive. Must be a pretty fast shifting auto to make up for the 60hp deficiency.

It's not an "auto" that's why. It is a DCT...

[DRKS1D3]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

It's not an "auto" that's why. It is a DCT...

Sorry, I should've been a little clearer. I was just using the same vernacular that has been used in this thread approximately 37 times (auto). It is a dual-clutch, shiftable, 6 speed automatic folks.

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Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

Absolutely agree with you. I'm not a fan of the newest body style. I miss the older WRX's. Subarus are just uber reliable and their AWD is killer. Toyota needs a hopped up Celica AWD again.

Ahhhh, the ol' Celica All-trac turbo. I used to lust after those as a kid. 'So rare, they'll probably be collector's cars , if not already... I also loved the ~'92 MR2 turbo as well.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by DRKS1D3

Sorry, I should've been a little clearer. I was just using the same vernacular that has been used in this thread approximately 37 times (auto). It is a dual-clutch, shiftable, 6 speed automatic folks.

Let's all just remember (not singleing you out) that a DCT is not like a traditional automatic. It does not have a torque converter, and in essence the way it is set up internally is more like two manual transmissions really. We really have come to the point where just using two choices to describe transmissions (automatic and manual) is not quite enough.

[fldrummer]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

Let's all just remember (not singleing you out) that a DCT is not like a traditional automatic. It does not have a torque converter, and in essence the way it is set up internally is more like two manual transmissions really. We really have come to the point where just using two choices to describe transmissions (automatic and manual) is not quite enough.

Or, as VW calls it, Direct Shift Gearbox (DSG).

[Royal Tiger]

Originally Posted by fldrummer

Ahhhh, the ol' Celica All-trac turbo. I used to lust after those as a kid. 'So rare, they'll probably be collector's cars , if not already... I also loved the ~'92 MR2 turbo as well.

I haven't been keeping up on the new Supra and NSX chatter, but Japan is due for a come back now that the recession has flattened out.

[cal45]

Originally Posted by fldrummer

Just picked up this lil' sleeper-in-the-making last week. 'Just a tune away from being an 11-second car. Don't worry. I'm keeping my 5th-gen for weekend fun and getting ready to bump up the power on it some more...

Well, I just joined you. Last month I bought a Certified Pre Owned '16 R DSG from a local VW dealer (it was one of the Managers car). Had just 3900 miles on it for $34500. Learned a lot about these cars and had no idea what an R was....until I did some research and test drove one. I like that it is an "under the radar" type car.

As it's my daily driver, I swore no mods....that lasted 2 weeks before I had a Unitronic Stage 1+ tune added.
https://www.getunitronic.com/ecu-tun...017-stage1plus

['Merica]

Congrats on the purchase! I love these hatches, but VW never has any incentives on them, so I ended up getting the Camaro. You can make these into monsters; APR stage II, Unitronic etc. Anyone who laughs at these are just ignorant and misinformed

[Frank237]

The GTI's are great little cars. I had a 2010 with a tune and it was great DD. Worked amazingly well in the snow too.

Looked at them this past year when I decided I wanted a fun car. Considering my 1SS was close in price...it was a no brainer to get the Camaro.

The R is a big leap above the std GTI. You are going to enjoy it.

[fldrummer]

Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

Absolutely agree with you. I'm not a fan of the newest body style. I miss the older WRX's. Subarus are just uber reliable and their AWD is killer. Toyota needs a hopped up Celica AWD again.

I bet those old/rare Celica All-Tracs are worth something now! 'Always wanted to drive one of those...

'Just added the APR Stage 1 ECU & TCU tune to my Golf R on Friday. It should be sitting around 370 hp/383 tq at the crank now, according to their tests. I haven't had much chance to really get on it yet, but it's definitely a nice improvement, so far!