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The only reason I mentioned it here is that Commodore moving from a V6/V8 RWD to a I4/V6 FWD, is a jarring move. Like the one almost attempted by Ford with the whole Probe fiasco. Seem like its be better to just let the name go and offer the Insignia and Camaro to OZ.
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Excellent point. I still have nightmares over the Ventura version of the GTO. Bleah!!!
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i'll stick to my 15 ss. Gm ruined another great car
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X2! Front end looks like a new Cruze and the rear end looks like a Buick. Basically it looks like pretty much every other sedan out there on the road
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Well I understand that but it looks like a conglomeration of a bunch of average sedans
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And just where were you looking to buy an Opel, Vauxhall, or Holden in New Jersey -if GM hadn't 'ruined' this?
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You do realize it's not hard to export those cars right. But im saying gm killed a great v8 car. For a blah boring v6 and 4 cylinder.
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The market spoke. GM responded. Simple as that. It sucks, but it is what it is.
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The markets ever diminishing enthusiasts are ever being replaced by those who simply need an appliance to get them from point A to point B. Cars used to represent freedom, not just a mode of transportation. They used to take us to meet friends, go on dates, or just lose yourself for a moment. All that has been replaced by the internet. Those of us who understand this will lament the loss of two great cars and those who don't understand probably won't even notice.
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Spacious, Sporty and Sophisticated: The Next-Generation Holden Commodore Sportwagon Revealed
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Offering space and sophistication in equal measures, the all-new Sportwagon offers 1640 litres of boot space and high-tech solutions ranging from the world-beating IntelliLux LED matrix headlights and ultra-modern driver assistance systems to the cool head-up display. In addition, the Commodore Sportwagon comes with Holden’s first nine-speed automatic transmission and intelligent all-wheel drive. The next-generation Holden Sportwagon reinforces Commodore’s position as the most advanced Holden ever, includes tech such as autonomous emergency braking, adaptive suspension, adaptive cruise control and matrix lighting Drivetrain line-up mirrors NG Commodore’s with four-cylinder petrol and diesel options, alongside the flagship V6 model with 230kW and 370Nm, world-first ‘Twinster’ all-wheel drive system and 9-speed transmission for the first time ever in a Holden. The new Sportwagon comes with significant mass reductions than the current Commodore – depending on powertrain and trim, driven by the use of lightweight materials and efficient packaging. The new Opel Insignia Sports Tourer is up to 200 kilograms lighter than the current Commodore – depending on powertrain and trim, driven by the use of lightweight materials and efficient packaging. Bringing sexy back: Who said wagons need to be boring? Holden continues the tradition of high-style wagons with the all-new Commodore. Inspired by the Opel Monza concept, the prominent grille and the sculpted headlight design add to the feeling of sophistication. The car’s stance is also emphasized by a long wheelbase. The signature ‘blade’ styling hallmark starts in the front door and sweeps towards the rear helps carry the eye from front to back. The chrome window blade dynamically flows into the LED tail lamps and gives the Commodore Sportwagon an even more athletic appearance. The silver roof rails help stretch the car, make it look lower and emphasize the high-quality design. The Insignia Sports Tourer’s kinship with the Monza Concept is especially apparent at the rear: The shape looks much lighter than before with the newcomer defined by clear lines. Together with the slim, slightly protruding LED taillights in double-wing design, they help the rear end of the Opel flagship to make a strong impression. The high-tech look of the Monza Concept thus becomes reality. Easy loader: Tailgate with an extra kick Not just sleek and sexy, the next-gen Sportwagon is also practical with 1,640 litres of boot volume. In order to make loading as easy as possible, the tailgate can be opened with a ‘kick’ – without touching the car. In combination with ‘keyless open’ tech, a simple small kicking motion under the rear bumper is enough to open the tailgate (a vehicle silhouette projected onto the ground shows the correct area). A further kicking motion under the bumper will close the tailgate. The clever system can detect any obstruction and stops the mechanism in case of emergency. In addition, for practicability, the height of the opening can be programmed, in case the car is in a garage. Furthermore, the tailgate can still be opened by a switch on the driver’s side of the car, a button at the rear or via the key’s remote control. In order to increase loading space the new Sportwagon comes with optional 40/20/40 foldable rear seats enabling even more flexible loading space configurations. The rear-seat bank can be folded down by simply pushing a button located in the luggage compartment. Additional driver assistance systems include:
NEXT-GENERATION COMMODORE KEY HIGHLIGHTS:
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Too bad its wrong wheel drive:(
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