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Old 12-08-2016, 12:32 PM   #15
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They did slap a Contour badge on a Mondeo though. And a Mystique one as well.

For awhile there was a single Lincoln model that wasn't a rebadged ford.
Lincoln indeed, matter of fact as far as I can tell, for decades, like 4, all Lincoln's have shared roots with Fords, save for the LS.

The only reason I mentioned it here is that Commodore moving from a V6/V8 RWD to a I4/V6 FWD, is a jarring move. Like the one almost attempted by Ford with the whole Probe fiasco. Seem like its be better to just let the name go and offer the Insignia and Camaro to OZ.
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:06 PM   #16
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Excellent point. I still have nightmares over the Ventura version of the GTO. Bleah!!!
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:56 PM   #17
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i'll stick to my 15 ss. Gm ruined another great car
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:57 PM   #18
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i'll stick to my 15 ss. Gm ruined another great car
X2! Front end looks like a new Cruze and the rear end looks like a Buick. Basically it looks like pretty much every other sedan out there on the road
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Old 12-08-2016, 05:56 PM   #19
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X2! Front end looks like a new Cruze and the rear end looks like a Buick. Basically it looks like pretty much every other sedan out there on the road
Yeah well there's a reason for that.
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Old 12-08-2016, 06:12 PM   #20
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Yeah well there's a reason for that.
Well I understand that but it looks like a conglomeration of a bunch of average sedans
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Old 12-08-2016, 06:53 PM   #21
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i'll stick to my 15 ss. Gm ruined another great car
And just where were you looking to buy an Opel, Vauxhall, or Holden in New Jersey -if GM hadn't 'ruined' this?
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:41 PM   #22
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You do realize it's not hard to export those cars right. But im saying gm killed a great v8 car. For a blah boring v6 and 4 cylinder.
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You do realize it's not hard to export those cars right. But im saying gm killed a great v8 car. For a blah boring v6 and 4 cylinder.
A great V8 car, yes, but a great V8 car whose sales have been on the decline for years in favor of "blah boring v6 and 4 cylinder."

The market spoke. GM responded. Simple as that. It sucks, but it is what it is.
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Old 12-08-2016, 10:11 PM   #24
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A great V8 car, yes, but a great V8 car whose sales have been on the decline for years in favor of "blah boring v6 and 4 cylinder."

The market spoke. GM responded. Simple as that. It sucks, but it is what it is.
That is indeed the truth. Though it is a shame to not only see the loss of the cars themselves, Falcon and the RWD Commodore, but also the "spirit" that these two cars represented.

The markets ever diminishing enthusiasts are ever being replaced by those who simply need an appliance to get them from point A to point B.

Cars used to represent freedom, not just a mode of transportation. They used to take us to meet friends, go on dates, or just lose yourself for a moment. All that has been replaced by the internet. Those of us who understand this will lament the loss of two great cars and those who don't understand probably won't even notice.


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Spacious, Sporty and Sophisticated: The Next-Generation Holden Commodore Sportwagon Revealed
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February 6, 2017


  • Room to move with 1640L of boot space, kicking motion opens powered tailgate
  • Class-leading driving dynamics, advanced all-wheel drive with torque vectoring
  • Sleek European design, superb refinement
  • Lane Keep Assist, Autonomous Emergency Braking and more
  • Latest generation IntelliLux LED matrix lights turn night into day
  • World premiere in Geneva this March in Opel guise, on-sale in Australia 2018
The all-new Holden Commodore Sportwagon has emerged from the gym; trim, toned and beautifully presented. Following closely on the heels of the reveal of the NG Commodore, the Sportwagon is spacious, refined and offers exemplary safety, just as a flagship Holden should.

Offering space and sophistication in equal measures, the all-new Sportwagon offers 1640 litres of boot space and high-tech solutions ranging from the world-beating IntelliLux LED matrix headlights and ultra-modern driver assistance systems to the cool head-up display. In addition, the Commodore Sportwagon comes with Holden’s first nine-speed automatic transmission and intelligent all-wheel drive.

The next-generation Holden Sportwagon reinforces Commodore’s position as the most advanced Holden ever, includes tech such as autonomous emergency braking, adaptive suspension, adaptive cruise control and matrix lighting

Drivetrain line-up mirrors NG Commodore’s with four-cylinder petrol and diesel options, alongside the flagship V6 model with 230kW and 370Nm, world-first ‘Twinster’ all-wheel drive system and 9-speed transmission for the first time ever in a Holden.

The new Sportwagon comes with significant mass reductions than the current Commodore – depending on powertrain and trim, driven by the use of lightweight materials and efficient packaging. The new Opel Insignia Sports Tourer is up to 200 kilograms lighter than the current Commodore – depending on powertrain and trim, driven by the use of lightweight materials and efficient packaging.

Bringing sexy back:


Who said wagons need to be boring? Holden continues the tradition of high-style wagons with the all-new Commodore. Inspired by the Opel Monza concept, the prominent grille and the sculpted headlight design add to the feeling of sophistication. The car’s stance is also emphasized by a long wheelbase. The signature ‘blade’ styling hallmark starts in the front door and sweeps towards the rear helps carry the eye from front to back. The chrome window blade dynamically flows into the LED tail lamps and gives the Commodore Sportwagon an even more athletic appearance. The silver roof rails help stretch the car, make it look lower and emphasize the high-quality design.

The Insignia Sports Tourer’s kinship with the Monza Concept is especially apparent at the rear: The shape looks much lighter than before with the newcomer defined by clear lines. Together with the slim, slightly protruding LED taillights in double-wing design, they help the rear end of the Opel flagship to make a strong impression. The high-tech look of the Monza Concept thus becomes reality.

Easy loader: Tailgate with an extra kick


Not just sleek and sexy, the next-gen Sportwagon is also practical with 1,640 litres of boot volume.

In order to make loading as easy as possible, the tailgate can be opened with a ‘kick’ – without touching the car. In combination with ‘keyless open’ tech, a simple small kicking motion under the rear bumper is enough to open the tailgate (a vehicle silhouette projected onto the ground shows the correct area). A further kicking motion under the bumper will close the tailgate. The clever system can detect any obstruction and stops the mechanism in case of emergency. In addition, for practicability, the height of the opening can be programmed, in case the car is in a garage. Furthermore, the tailgate can still be opened by a switch on the driver’s side of the car, a button at the rear or via the key’s remote control.

In order to increase loading space the new Sportwagon comes with optional 40/20/40 foldable rear seats enabling even more flexible loading space configurations. The rear-seat bank can be folded down by simply pushing a button located in the luggage compartment.

Additional driver assistance systems include:
  • Head-up-Display: Information on speed, traffic signs, set speed of speed limiter or navigation direction is projected onto the windshield and in the driver’s direct line of sight ensuring that the eyes remain on the road.
  • Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), which measures the distance to the vehicle in front and adapts the speed accordingly. ACC will initiate automatic emergency braking if the distance decreases abruptly.
  • Lane Keep Assist with automated steering correction and Lane Departure Warning (LDW). Provides gentle steering wheel movements (and LDW alerts if necessary) to help drivers avoid unintentionally drifting out of their lane.
  • Rear Cross Traffic Alert. The system uses radar sensors in the rear bumper to detect objects coming from up to 20 meters at 90 degrees from the left or right side behind the vehicle, a very useful function when reversing out of a parking spot with limited visibility.
The upcoming Holden Sportwagon will celebrate its world premiere in Opel guise at the Geneva Motor Show on March 7, and will go on sale in Australia in 2018.

NEXT-GENERATION COMMODORE KEY HIGHLIGHTS:
  • Cutting-edge driver assistance systems and technology:
    • Autonomous Emergency Braking
    • Adaptive Cruise Control
    • Speed Limit Cruise Control
    • Lane Departure Warning
    • Lane Keep Assist
    • Forward Collision Alert
    • Side Blind-Zone Alert
    • Rear Cross-Traffic Alert
  • Next-generation comfort and convenience technologies:
    • Massage Seats
    • Rear one-touch folding seats
    • Heated Front and Rear seats
    • Ventilated Front seats
    • Express up/down all windows
    • Wagon power lift-gate
    • Active Noise Cancellation
Program overview:

  • Next-generation Commodore built in Germany on all-new, global E2 architecture shared with Opel Insignia
  • Lightweight construction methods result in approximately 200kg weight savings compared to current Commodore
  • Flagship model offers V6 AWD drivetrain with Holden-first 9-speed transmission
  • V6 engine delivers 230kW / 370Nm while being incredibly efficient thanks to Stop-Start technology and Active Fuel Management
  • 2.0T petrol and 2.0T diesel front-wheel drive models also coming to Australia
  • Liftback and Sportwagon body-styles
  • Cutting-edge, adaptive all-wheel-drive system with torque vectoring and twin-clutch (‘Twinster’) rear differential system
  • Adaptive ‘Flexride’ suspension system offers three settings: ‘Tour’, ‘Standard’ and ‘Sport’
  • Next-generation matrix lighting system
  • Infotainment includes:
    • Apple Car Play and Android Auto
    • 8-inch configurable LCD instrument display,
    • next-gen head-up display
Additional details and information to be confirmed closer to launch.


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I don't think I will ever be able to look at the interior of a RHD car and not have my brain scream 'the steering wheel is on the WRONG side!'
Actually, it is on the RIGHT side.
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