Will we see a Chevy SS with the ZR1 LS9?

cal45 · 09-24-2016, 09:14 AM

... I hope so.

Interesting article from Road & Track.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-from-america/

*DGthe3* · 09-24-2016, 09:41 AM

Its not worth the certification to sell 100 cars

cal45 · 09-24-2016, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Its not worth the certification to sell 100 cars

The article states 1000 new SS orders have been requested for the US. Not known if it will be the LS9 version.....but I bet Chevy would have no trouble selling them here in the states.

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One Sick Camaro · 09-24-2016, 10:38 AM

I own one at first no one knew what it was but seems now more people want the car.

Niemienator · 09-24-2016, 07:48 PM

Almost bought one before the ZL1. I would be in for one with FI, a proper oil cooler, Recaros and 6 Pistons up front.

*DGthe3* · 09-24-2016, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cal45

The article states 1000 new SS orders have been requested for the US. Not known if it will be the LS9 version.....but I bet Chevy would have no trouble selling them here in the states.

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And those 1000 cars represent 3 to 4 months of SS sales. Through to August this year, they've only sold 2148 SS's. Last year it was 2199.

Royal Tiger · 09-24-2016, 10:30 PM

The name is dumb and they've done nothing to market it.

cal45 · 09-24-2016, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

And those 1000 cars represent 3 to 4 months of SS sales. Through to August this year, they've only sold 2148 SS's. Last year it was 2199.

You are referring to LS3 SS's....you do not think the a SC LS9 SS would sell here? (if they offered them). I do.

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FenwickHockey65 · 09-24-2016, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cal45

You are referring to LS3 SS's....you do not think the a SC LS9 SS would sell here? (if they offered them). I do.

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It wouldn't.

You'd sell a bunch to hardcore performance enthusiasts, which doesn't represent a large amount of sales. And keep in mind this isn't a ZR1 Corvette, it's a car that in all honesty doesn't have much exposure to the general public. Half the people out there think it's just a Malibu.

And in any case, if there was to be a VF Commodore with an LS9, there's a pretty good chance it would be an HSV, not a Holden. And technically speaking HSV =/= GM.

cal45 · 09-25-2016, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

.......And in any case, if there was to be a VF Commodore with an LS9, there's a pretty good chance it would be an HSV, not a Holden. And technically speaking HSV =/= GM.

Well, according to this, it would be both

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...tte-zr1-power/

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FenwickHockey65 · 09-25-2016, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cal45

Well, according to this, it would be both

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...tte-zr1-power/

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It doesn't say that at all. In fact it says pretty clearly it'll be an HSV.

HSV is a separate company from GM. If they want to take GM Holden-sourced Commodores and stick LS9s in them, they can do so. It's no different than a performance shop in the US taking an SS and putting an LS9 in it. But the chances of seeing a GM factory built Commodore with an LS9 are slim.

cal45 · 09-25-2016, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

It doesn't say that at all. In fact it says pretty clearly it'll be an HSV.

HSV is a separate company from GM. If they want to take GM Holden-sourced Commodores and stick LS9s in them, they can do so. It's no different than a performance shop in the US taking an SS and putting an LS9 in it. But the chances of seeing a GM factory built Commodore with an LS9 are slim.

Agree, HSV will be taking a Holden Commodore and adding the LS9 - so that was my point of it being both. Also, think as you that there is a slim chance of ever seeing one in the US as a SS+ - but still would like to see it.

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*DGthe3* · 09-25-2016, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cal45

You are referring to LS3 SS's....you do not think the a SC LS9 SS would sell here? (if they offered them). I do.

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No, I don't. Certainly not in the numbers that the LS3 cars do ... and thats already a pretty low bar.

An LS9 powered SS sedan would likely be an absolute minimum price of 70 grand, probably over 80 if it has to be done through an aftermarket shop. How many people do you think would be willing to spend that kind of money on a Chevy sedan when they could get either a Hellcat Charger for a lot less, or a CTS-V for a little more? Or just get a regular SS sedan supercharged, with more than enough money left over to just straight up buy a brand new LS3 in case that one blows. Again, this is keeping in mind that fewer than 3000 people each year decide to buy a regular SS.

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Originally Posted by cal45

Agree, HSV will be taking a Holden Commodore and adding the LS9 - so that was my point of it being both. Also, think as you that there is a slim chance of ever seeing one in the US as a SS+ - but still would like to see it.

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Fens point is that Holden (and therefore GM) isn't putting LS9s into Commodores. The manufacturer has nothing to do with the engine upgrade. They just provide the rest of the car (and a now surplus LS3).

90503 · 09-25-2016, 11:06 AM

Isn't NASCAR a big part of why there is any kind of SS?....Obviously sales numbers are very low...Probably any other model would have been discontinued long ago with those sales numbers...

Without the SS what would Chevy have for NASCAR?....If it's going to be built in stupid low numbers, and a high price to boot, why not put an LS9 in it?..

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