No Sir, I was not going 54

[benjaminkeith]

Originally Posted by Jamie Mac

a friend of mine once went to court and started explaining all the reasons why the officers radar could be inaccurate. When the judge asked him how he knew so much he said "I'm a radar repair specialist for F4 fighters in the Air Force.". Case dismissed

I'll need a list of those reasons please, for future reference.

[MSG']

I think he just wanted to see your car.

[wirebender]

Originally Posted by benjaminkeith

I'll need a list of those reasons please, for future reference.

+1

[Susantroy1]

My bet it gave him reason to check out the new 2010 Had the same thing happen at 0630 on my way to work in my 69 Chevelle coupe. asked to see my reg/lis... and then talked about how he had one back in the day blah blah blah.... only he said I needed to check out my rear running light it was out Made me late for work.

[CloudXTC]

he just wanted to see the car... so he made up a random number 54 and stopped you

[Moorepheus]

Originally Posted by Banshee

That is NOT correct! Radar is used in 90% or more of all municipalities and the least expensive and very accurate. RADAR measures speed by Doppler shift, LIDAR calculates speed.

Pacing is also mentioned. Speedometers are certified calibrated and dead nuts accurate.

VASCAR is a set length over a certain time to calculate speed.

So, if an officer has RADAR, the doppler shift is capable to be utilized fore, aft, both or moving.

While in motion, the RADAR unit calculates the speed of the patrol vehicle against the forward progress of the target vehicle and speed is determined. Units MUST be calibrated and I usually calibrate mine beginning of day, whenever I write a ticket, and at end of day.

A Google search would have clarified the misconception of what is known and what is percieved to be known.

You beat me to the punch. I am X-Military Police and we were trained on radar, calibration, and how to use it, stationary or moving, that was like 20 years ago. Technology is much better today. They can tell how fast you are going moving or not. One thing I was tought and not sure if it is true today, that a RADAR MACHINE can not be used as evidence in court. That is, the police officer must first witness you speeding and then uses his radar device to confirm it. I have not been in Law Enforcement in the military for years, so, that could have changed to or been strickly a Military rule.

[Banshee]

Originally Posted by Moorepheus

One thing I was tought and not sure if it is true today, that a RADAR MACHINE can not be used as evidence in court. That is, the police officer must first witness you speeding and then uses his radar device to confirm it. I have not been in Law Enforcement in the military for years, so, that could have changed to or been strickly a Military rule.

That is true is Detroit..We must have a visual on the vehicle and observe say in a 30 mph zone, the vehicle passing on right, overtaking at greater speed..then the tonal signal the radar emits. When in traffic, say stationary, the tone is low for say 30 mph..you get used to that tone. When an offender is going faster than that low pitched tone of all other traffic, the radar emits a higher pitched tone. Visual is obtained and based on visual, the offender's vehicle speed is locked after observation.

Now visual acuity and speed is easy. I live on a 25 mph road. I can tell you within +/- 2 mph how fast a vehicle is traveling 95% of the time.

Fastest vehicle I have caught was a Chevy Cobalt SS..128 in a 55, stationary. Took me 3 miles to get him, 4 seperate choices of freeways after I clocked him and was luck. The plate came back to a city south and I took the freeway I thought he would take..

And he tried to fight it...Yea, right.

BTW, I am VERY liberal with tickets..I know how I drive and am not a hypocrite. We all are required to have insurance, registration, plates and drive safe. I don't have a ticket quota, so I take care of the real crappy drivers that may at some point cause you an accident. Just ask DDustin here on this board. He got in an accident in my precinct in Detroit with his 2SS with 500 miles on her. Idiot hit him and didn't have insurance.

So if at some point somebody here gets a ticket, one of 4 things are true. Either you did it and the cop is nice, you did it and the cop is a dick, you didn't do it and the cop has a quota or the cop is a dick and has a quota. Not all of us are sanctamonious pricks. I am just like you.

Off my soapbox..sorry for the ramblings.

[Scrappy Doo]

[QUOTE=Banshee;925505]That is true is Detroit..We must have a visual on the vehicle and observe say in a 30 mph zone, the vehicle passing on right, overtaking at greater speed..then the tonal signal the radar emits. When in traffic, say stationary, the tone is low for say 30 mph..you get used to that tone. When an offender is going faster than that low pitched tone of all other traffic, the radar emits a higher pitched tone. Visual is obtained and based on visual, the offender's vehicle speed is locked after observation.

Now visual acuity and speed is easy. I live on a 25 mph road. I can tell you within +/- 2 mph how fast a vehicle is traveling 95% of the time.

Fastest vehicle I have caught was a Chevy Cobalt SS..128 in a 55, stationary. Took me 3 miles to get him, 4 seperate choices of freeways after I clocked him and was luck. The plate came back to a city south and I took the freeway I thought he would take..

And he tried to fight it...Yea, right.

BTW, I am VERY liberal with tickets..I know how I drive and am not a hypocrite. We all are required to have insurance, registration, plates and drive safe. I don't have a ticket quota, so I take care of the real crappy drivers that may at some point cause you an accident. Just ask DDustin here on this board. He got in an accident in my precinct in Detroit with his 2SS with 500 miles on her. Idiot hit him and didn't have insurance.

So if at some point somebody here gets a ticket, one of 4 things are true. Either you did it and the cop is nice, you did it and the cop is a dick, you didn't do it and the cop has a quota or the cop is a dick and has a quota. Not all of us are sanctamonious pricks. I am just like you.

Off my soapbox..sorry for the ramblings.[/QUOTE]

Amen.... I just posted my rant on the Never been so freaked out thread.

To the OP, I can't tell you how fast you were going, I wasn't there. Just don't think we are all bad!

There are bad people in every profession. Just cause I have a bad plumber, doent mean I think all plumbers are morons.... etc etc.

[SWHCPA]

Originally Posted by Banshee

"one of 4 things are true. Either you did it and the cop is nice, you did it and the cop is a dick, you didn't do it and the cop has a quota or the cop is a dick and has a quota. Not all of us are sanctamonious pricks. I am just like you."

This pretty much describes the decision tree on 95% of all the people we meet in life. It is the last 3 that drive all of us nuts.

I live in Dallas - the Official home to the "can I tell you who I am" $35,000/yr mastercard millionaire douchebag.

[mtcwby]

Disclaimer: Kids don't try this at home!!
My GPS recorded 161 mph when my DIC showed that I was at the limiter of 155 mph.
I figure it was due to the fact that the tires grow a bit in diameter when they are spinning that fast. By the way, I was still in 4th gear!! Normal highway driving, when my DIC shows 75, my GPS shows 76 mph.

[MrIcky]

LOL at the Cobalt.

And 99% of Cops really are pretty cool people who just want their day to get over without drama. /Salute to you all (well, all but that 1%), that's a rough job.

[moike]

Originally Posted by Banshee

That is NOT correct! Radar is used in 90% or more of all municipalities and the least expensive and very accurate. RADAR measures speed by Doppler shift, LIDAR calculates speed.

Pacing is also mentioned. Speedometers are certified calibrated and dead nuts accurate.

VASCAR is a set length over a certain time to calculate speed.

So, if an officer has RADAR, the doppler shift is capable to be utilized fore, aft, both or moving.

While in motion, the RADAR unit calculates the speed of the patrol vehicle against the forward progress of the target vehicle and speed is determined. Units MUST be calibrated and I usually calibrate mine beginning of day, whenever I write a ticket, and at end of day.

A Google search would have clarified the misconception of what is known and what is percieved to be known.

I stand corrected! Sorry, Sorry. I live in PA, so I'm thinking we might be in the dark ages here compared to other states, lol. I think we're the only state where local municipalities are not even allowed to use radar, only vascar(and other non-radar electronic methods, enradd and esp) and pacing. Lidar is not approved at all state-wide. State troopers can use radar.. but being mainly on major highways I think pacing would probably be easier while moving than holding up the radar gun at 55mph or faster? Just my guess.. Are the radar devices actually mounted to the cruisers in detroit? I always see the troopers holding them out the windows here on the side of the highways. Sorry, if I came across as a smart-ass, lol.

[Scrappy Doo]

Originally Posted by moike

I stand corrected! Sorry, Sorry. I live in PA, so I'm thinking we might be in the dark ages here compared to other states, lol. I think we're the only state where local municipalities are not even allowed to use radar, only vascar(and other non-radar electronic methods, enradd and esp) and pacing. Lidar is not approved at all state-wide. State troopers can use radar.. but being mainly on major highways I think pacing would probably be easier while moving than holding up the radar gun at 55mph or faster? Just my guess.. Are the radar devices actually mounted to the cruisers in detroit? I always see the troopers holding them out the windows here on the side of the highways. Sorry, if I came across as a smart-ass, lol.

they are typically mounted on the dash. They do make hand held radar units too. Most of the handhelds are probably LIDAR/laser units.

[Banshee]

Originally Posted by moike

State troopers can use radar.. but being mainly on major highways I think pacing would probably be easier while moving than holding up the radar gun at 55mph or faster? Just my guess.. Are the radar devices actually mounted to the cruisers in detroit? I always see the troopers holding them out the windows here on the side of the highways. Sorry, if I came across as a smart-ass, lol.

The doppler units are fixed on the front dash and rear deck of the car..used for in motion speeders. There are handheld radar units...but you have to be stationary...or a damn good driver!

LIDAR is handheld.

This is radar...see the two cylinders? one mounts in front, one in rear..dash and rear deck. I will take a few pics of my car tonight and show how set up.