Firearms Section

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by MarkZ

I wouldn't worry about it being an investment casting.....but what material is it made out of? Just curious.

4140

[drivingagain]

Like I said 4140 should be good for a 10mm. I need a 4150 frame and slide for the .460 rowland. The .460 is like shooting a 44 magnum in .46 caliber. The 10mm is basically a little hotter .40 kind of like mixing a .357 load into a 40 caliber. I think the pressures for a 10mm and 45 are close to the same. That is why the concern of a 10mm with over penetration. Smaller grain bullet with higher fps.

[drivingagain]

I use Federal Hydro shock +P in my springfield mod 2 .45 for carry gun.

Here is that round in. 45:
____________________Grain FT LBs Velocity
45 ACP +P Hydra_Shok 185 524 1130
10mm Hyd-Shok 180 424 1030

This is just comparing this factory load range between calibers. If you reload I believe you can load 10mm to a higher pressure. Although for factory loads they are really close. Main difference is the smaller caliber 10mm vs .45 so it will penetrate deeper for hunting.

I had a very close friend of mine do ballistics testing for the government with 9mm, 10mm, .40, .357 sig, and .45. He will not own anything less than a .45 acp for carry purposes. Personal opinion and test results weigh into this decision as well.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by drivingagain

Like I said 4140 should be good for a 10mm. I need a 4150 frame and slide for the .460 rowland. The .460 is like shooting a 44 magnum in .46 caliber. The 10mm is basically a little hotter .40 kind of like mixing a .357 load into a 40 caliber. I think the pressures for a 10mm and 45 are close to the same. That is why the concern of a 10mm with over penetration. Smaller grain bullet with higher fps.

Most factory 10mm is pretty anemic. Full power 10mm auto is much more powerful than .40 S&W.

10mm max pressure is 33k psi, while .45 acp is 21k psi. That's a major increase in pressure.

[drivingagain]

That is the same thing I was trying to get at. Just explained a different longer version. lol Basically if you are buying factory ammo 4140 is fine and very close to .45 ammo. If you are reloading most do not load to max pressure either.

[drivingagain]

I was not sure the pressure from the 10mm reload. Sounds like you have done more research going that conversion. I know the .460 Rowland conversion has a max pressure of 40k psi. This is why the 4150 is needed.

They are using glocks and springfields for these conversion too now. That might be the way I go as with my springfields I will get 13 rounds rather than 7 or 8 in a single stack .45. I have big hands so the double stacks fit my hands better. Although I love 1911's they are like Saigas. Can dump alot of money into them to get right and other guns run better out of the box from the factory. Although they look really nice! I also happen to have a friend here in Saint Augustine that builds professional 3 gun champion .45's. Almost too good of an option and why I had my last .45 custom built.

[Bhobbs]

I live in California so I'm stuck to 10 rounds. I like the 1911 for that capacity.

[kalimus]

Originally Posted by kalimus

Better be careful about this directive.

You say not all semi-automatic rifles will be banned, and while that may technically be true for those that are grandfathered under the law... the transfer and sale of new rifles under these guidelines may be affected more than some people realize. Note that the weapon in question does NOT need to be an AR style rifle... but rather just a semi-auto that can accept detachable magazines period.

Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

AG Healey is quite clear about new sales. She put it in writing and gave it to the Boston Globe to distribute https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...pYM/story.html . She is emphatically clear. She says it will stop now. She told manufacturers and FFLs that yesterday. And nowhere do I suggest that the firearm needs to be an AR type.

And there's something I need to address. You say quote



Firstly no, I do not say that. AG Healey does. Secondly, she specifically mentioned firearms purchased before 20 July 16- that was Wednesday. So by her own statement those are not "banned". That's [insert joke here] what she said. "Banning" them would require confiscation, logically. Again I quote Maura Healey here:

"We recognize that most residents who purchased these guns in the past believed they were doing so legally, so this directive will not apply to possession of guns purchased before Wednesday."

Note she says "possesion" specifically. This suggests that the sale is prohibited. But is that suggestion law? As I say we must collect info.

Did you just not understand what I posted? Or maybe you didn't know I was referring the the AG's statements verbatim?

Just wanted to point something out again... I'm not the only person that noticed...

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...bZI/story.html

Governor Charlie Baker’s administration said Tuesday that Attorney General Maura Healey’s new crackdown on the sale of so-called “copycat” assault weapons is so unclear that it might inadvertently prohibit many more guns, including pistols, that have long been legal in Massachusetts

“Depending on how your office is interpreting the two-part test you have articulated for determining whether something is a ‘copy or duplicate’ of a listed assault weapon, a large number of firearms, including pistols that have been sold here legally for decades, may be unintentionally affected,” Bennett wrote.

[MarkZ]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

4140

It really depends on what final state its in. When manufactured properly, they can be stronger than forged parts.

[Tenring]

The high pressures happen in the chamber of the barrel, make sure to get a good one.

Anyone loading to max SAAMI specs usually isn't around too long or missing a few parts.

[Captain Slow]

[Dmpsix]

What do you guys think of the Glock 19 for a concealed carry here in TX?

Can anyone recommend me a good holster / kit to carry it?

I wear fitted jeans and fitted t-shirts, nothing baggy, nothing tight... just clothes that fit.

[Royal Tiger]

Not much of a Glock fan to be honest.

I usually went with a paddle holster, but I'm finding my new Uncle Mike's inside the waistband to be much easier to conceal.

[Tenring]

Originally Posted by Dmpsix

What do you guys think of the Glock 19 for a concealed carry here in TX?

Can anyone recommend me a good holster / kit to carry it?

I wear fitted jeans and fitted t-shirts, nothing baggy, nothing tight... just clothes that fit.

Not much of a Glock guy either.

I would be thinking about a Sig 229 instead of a G19, with a Milt Sparks IWB holster, or a clone.