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Old 07-16-2008, 08:25 AM   #15
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the challenger does 0-60 in 4.7 sec and the quarter in 13 flat with a crappy mercedes 5 speed auto...09 it gets the 6 speed tremec LSD 3.92 and that will probably be neck in neck with the gt500 or even beat it stock without a blower...so i wouldnt be so laid back about the challenger just yet. yea its a pig.....a fast pig. the camaro has yet to reveal its hp and weight so to say the camaro will spank the challenger is ludacris i expect it to be lighter but i think most of you will be suprised at how heavy the camaro will be with all the new safety standards out.

love them both....as long as they beat the crappy fords im happy.

and right now it seems like that is the case.
I sure hope that with the upcoming improvements to the chally it becomes a better contender. I am looking forward to lining up with one and not have my maro destroy it in stock form. I want the competition. It makes winning that much sweeter.
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:50 AM   #16
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I wonder how much weight they can save in the R/T without that slushbox.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:19 AM   #17
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not sure I can find one

when the '09 charger gets its 6speed manual there will be plenty of them
didn't think so.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:22 AM   #18
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Thanks for the review, Congoman. What's really sad is that I believe 100% of what your saying (I had hoped the car would be better). Usually I'll take everything with some salt before I do it, but you seem......dissapointed. If you were jumping up and down, cursing Dodge, and praising our luck or something; I'd have skipped the thread.

I always kinda figured the Challenger would be what you describe. So I can't say I'm surprised. I'm sure there was some performance tweaking done by the SRT people; but it seems like Dodge put very little effort into the vehicle. So what we're left with is 4100 lbs, a mediocre interior, and a big engine. I guess one out of three ain't bad......

Thanks again, Congoman!! Now, on to Camaro!
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:29 AM   #19
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Can't say that I'm surprised about the Chally. Saw it coming a mile away...
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:50 AM   #20
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Old 07-16-2008, 11:14 AM   #21
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its a tank i saw one

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Old 07-16-2008, 12:17 PM   #22
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I want to drive the 2009 Challenger with the 6-Speed Manual.
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Old 07-16-2008, 12:43 PM   #23
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the main problem with the challenger was never its weight even in the 70s it was a pig....it just had a big motor to make up for it... the problem this time around is the crappy slushbox they got out of merging with mercedes...its the same auto used in the baby e-class. if you guys dont think that 4.7 and 13 flat in the quarter isnt good for a 4100lb pig with a crap slushbox...then you have your bar set wayyy high for the maro...which is good and bad. stock for stock these cars will be even with the maro edging out cuz of weight. the problem is the ls engines have always been mod friendly....freeakin hemis havent well theyre just startin to come out eith stuff since it was re-introduced in 05
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Old 07-16-2008, 01:22 PM   #24
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Is it bad that the Challenger is damn near as big, if not bigger, than my parents '99 Envoy, and gets the same gas milege???

1999 GMC Envoy - (L)183.8 in. (W)67.8 in. (H)64.4 in.
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2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 - (L)197.7 in. (W)57.0 in. (H)75.7 in.
4140 lbs,
18.0 mpg
V8 425 hp(ok... so there's a huge hp difference, the rest of the stats is what is interesting)

The Challenger weighs more than a friggen small SUV.... THAT IS F***ED UP!!! That thing need one HELL of a diet!!! Yall aint lyin'... this thing IS a boat. I really dont think we have to worry about the Chally as competition.... it is WAAAAAAAY too fat!!!
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I wonder what the R/T weighs. That and the SE will be Camaro's REAL competition.
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Old 07-16-2008, 01:30 PM   #26
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I wonder what the R/T weighs. That and the SE will be Camaro's REAL competition.
I think I saw some specs for the R/T while i was searching for the SRT8 stats... ill see if i can find them again

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Old 07-16-2008, 02:18 PM   #27
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If the Camaro didn't live up to expectations, the Charger was one of my other considerations. This thread removes both the Challenger and the Charger from the list.
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Old 07-16-2008, 02:35 PM   #28
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after reading from that link, its not the LX platform, its the heavyass HEMI's thats weighting them down, chrysler needs to find a way to make em less hevy
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