9 killed in Charleston church shooting; suspect in custody

[snarky]

stunning to hear crazy racists live in south carolina

[ZED SLED]

Originally Posted by snarky

stunning to hear crazy racists live in south carolina

Really? Jesse Jackson is from South Carolina.

[okbfd]

As was said......crazy racist

[skipinminn]

The sad part is the Media will make this puke a folk hero. They will plaster his face across the written media and the TV news. When this kind of thing happens the offender should become a Number and is not made into a media star. :( SADLY he will get his 15mins PLUS of fame. Then somebody else will take his place. :(

[KCdaMan]

Originally Posted by xstuntman

And the four states that were hardcore slavery but still part of the Union? Lincoln was against slavery but not completely stupid and he new he needed those states. The Emancipation Proclamation applied to only those states in rebellion.

The winner rewrites history to his satisfaction and creates boogemen as needed, always will too. And thats why the Confederate flag got its rep. Like i said the rebellion issue wasn't about slavery, it was legalized theft by the North.

This is awesome revisionist history at its finest!!! And the usual playlist of the blame game continues.. blame the so called liberal media, liberal schools of education and then the oppressed/victims.

What exactly is the liberal media BTW? I'm a black guy, educated, former vet of the USMC, family man and I've yet to understand this narrative of the liberal media. Is it ANY medium that doesn't propagate conservatism? Is it this supposed media that "protects" minorities (that's laughable BTW)Is it a medium that has vast ideas that are new and diverse? Help me out here. And for the record your revisionist history is pretty standard.... just sayin

[el ess A]

Now everything is fixed. They're pushing to move the confederate flag off state property. And we ALL know that doing this will fix ALL the problems revolving around the Charleston shooting or other sick events that are similar. Right?

And KCdaMan, if you don't know what the liberal media is, then you need to educate yourself further. Methinks you're just playing dumb or maybe you watch MSNBC too much.

[45thAnniversary2SS]

Originally Posted by el ess A

Now everything is fixed. They're pushing to move the confederate flag off state property. And we ALL know that doing this will fix ALL the problems revolving around the Charleston shooting or other sick events that are similar. Right?

And KCdaMan, if you don't know what the liberal media is, then you need to educate yourself further. Methinks you're just playing dumb or maybe you watch MSNBC too much.

Yea, has nothing to do with the fact that it is offensive.....

[okbfd]

Offensive to some.......not so much to others. It has become a symbol for stuff that it was never supposed to represent by people that are just looking for a reason in this PC world.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by okbfd

Offensive to some.......not so much to others. It has become a symbol for stuff that it was never supposed to represent by people that are just looking for a reason in this PC world.

It was put on the SC state-capitol grounds in 1961 as a response to the desegregation efforts coming down from the SCOTUS. It was never a flag for the Confederate State of South Carolina -- it was the battle flag for the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia. It became the symbol it is because of the people that put it there. This is coming from someone that has lived in the South most of my life and lived in SC for 5 years.

[SSCam99]

Originally Posted by KCdaMan

What exactly is the liberal media BTW? I'm a black guy, educated, former vet of the USMC, family man and I've yet to understand this narrative of the liberal media. Is it ANY medium that doesn't propagate conservatism? Is it this supposed media that "protects" minorities (that's laughable BTW)Is it a medium that has vast ideas that are new and diverse? Help me out here.

Let me preface this (and you can laugh) by saying I work in the media. But if your question is sincere there are books about it.

"Left Turn: How Liberal Media Bias Distorts the American Mind" by Tim Groseclose.

"Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News" by Bernard Goldberg

and so on...

Sometimes it's as simple as NOT reporting certain incidents or NOT asking certain questions that can slant the news politically..

Again, maybe your question was rhetorical, maybe not. Either way I was aware of those books and thought I'd share if you were truly interested.

[KCdaMan]

Originally Posted by SSCam99

Let me preface this (and you can laugh) by saying I work in the media. But if your question is sincere there are books about it.

"Left Turn: How Liberal Media Bias Distorts the American Mind" by Tim Groseclose.

"Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News" by Bernard Goldberg

and so on...

Sometimes it's as simple as NOT reporting certain incidents or NOT asking certain questions that can slant the news politically..

Again, maybe your question was rhetorical, maybe not. Either way I was aware of those books and thought I'd share if you were truly interested.

So for proof that the 'liberal media' exist you provide a conservative talking head? REALLY? I was asking an honest question because even back in my college days NO ONE ever answers the question, at least not sincerely. To your point the SAME can be said about fox news and all its entities. You think I, as a black man, father, small business owner will honestly take fox seriously when they have the likes of kkklannity, coulter and oreilly spewing hate and lies mixed in with deceit and more hatred. I've been accused of being an MSNBC watcher a few post above which is hilarious BTW because I can't stand cowardly democrats either. Honestly speaking I'm anti -two party system all the way. But I can honestly say that even in my USMC days, all 12 years of such I've never once felt so embarrassed to have served as I do now with the constant backlash directed at the current administration. But back on topic, I find it funny that the imaginary liberal media is blamed for everything, especially when you can't honestly describe them. For example faux news tried their best to distort the Charleston racist shooting into an attack on religion, of course this makes sense to no one, but the real question is why? If the liberal media is accused of swaying thinking how can you NOT accuse the same of the fox variety? That's my point to there is only media, we the public choose sides. But thanks for the books that I'll never read because I don't like distortion and lies as the authors you chose. And really? Goldberg as a credible source? c'mon man! That's like me giving you a book written about bad republicans authored by some democrat! Get serious!

[KCdaMan]

Originally Posted by el ess A

Now everything is fixed. They're pushing to move the confederate flag off state property. And we ALL know that doing this will fix ALL the problems revolving around the Charleston shooting or other sick events that are similar. Right?

And KCdaMan, if you don't know what the liberal media is, then you need to educate yourself further. Methinks you're just playing dumb or maybe you watch MSNBC too much.

Thanks! I'll be sure to educate myself on conservative propaganda, that is what you mean correct? How about since you're so sure about what the liberal media is TELL me EXACTLY the how's, what's when's and the where's. Spare no detail my friend. And for the record I don't partake in MSNBC, but I do a lot of video documenting of fox news. I particularly enjoyed last night as the hateful, bigot coulter was there to discuss race. Now tell me how that makes sense to anyone.... I'll wait for your response to the questions..

[45thAnniversary2SS]

Originally Posted by KCdaMan

Thanks! I'll be sure to educate myself on conservative propaganda, that is what you mean correct? How about since you're so sure about what the liberal media is TELL me EXACTLY the how's, what's when's and the where's. Spare no detail my friend. And for the record I don't partake in MSNBC, but I do a lot of video documenting of fox news. I particularly enjoyed last night as the hateful, bigot coulter was there to discuss race. Now tell me how that makes sense to anyone.... I'll wait for your response to the questions..

Lol, why waste your time? May as well argue with a brick wall.

[mickss]

Originally Posted by KCdaMan

Thanks! I'll be sure to educate myself on conservative propaganda, that is what you mean correct? How about since you're so sure about what the liberal media is TELL me EXACTLY the how's, what's when's and the where's. Spare no detail my friend. And for the record I don't partake in MSNBC, but I do a lot of video documenting of fox news. I particularly enjoyed last night as the hateful, bigot coulter was there to discuss race. Now tell me how that makes sense to anyone.... I'll wait for your response to the questions..

This Is Fox News, Roger Ailes;
Roger Ailes is president of Fox News Channel, and chairman of the Fox Television Stations Group. Ailes was a media and presidential campaign consultant for Republican presidents Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George H. W. Bush and other prominent Republicans. Ailes is and has always been a Republican and you people who support and content that Fox News is fair and unbiased news with NO POLITICAL agenda!? Fox is nothing more than a clearing house for Republican talking points and a attack dog against this President and Liberals and a promoter of the Republican Party PERIOD!!!!
Phil Griffin is President of MSNBC was named President in July 2008, has always been a newsmen when he began his career at CNN in 1980 with NO political or media consulting in his background! Can Fox say the same for Ailes?

Rupert Murdoch;
Rupert Murdoch`s News Corp. had a dead girls telephone tapped to get a cheap story about her death. In the UK he has used his power of the press to shape corporate-friendly policies and quash those that don’t further its aims. News Corp. also helps elect politicians with timely endorsements while punishing foes who get in its way with negative coverage and political threats both here in the US and the UK. This pursuit of power has worked in the United States, where neither the Federal Communications Commission or Congress has found the courage to challenge his runaway media consolidation or call Murdoch to account for his activities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_In...acking_scandal
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