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Old 06-16-2015, 05:09 PM   #29
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No reason to call anyone retarded.

If you read my posts, I note only the external visual differences not internals.

By the way, 707 HP isn't an external visual difference from the SRT.
LOL ok I'm done with this thread. You simply said see above to the entire list. I'm saying the Hellcat has real menacing presence! It's a very sexy car in person. But of course so is your Z28!
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Old 06-16-2015, 05:38 PM   #30
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9WIjTBBuLp0

Hellcat gets a bad rap for not being able to handle. Watch this video and try and keep an open mind. Now it's not a Z28. But its not as bad as people's opinions according to this. I own a ZL1 and have a Hellcat on order so in a few months I will give my comparison. I'm not a fan boy for either car just love American muscle in all forms.
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Old 06-16-2015, 06:05 PM   #31
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Man does that thing sound good. Wish I could find one at a reasonable cost.
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Old 06-16-2015, 06:16 PM   #32
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LOL ok I'm done with this thread. You simply said see above to the entire list. I'm saying the Hellcat has real menacing presence! It's a very sexy car in person. But of course so is your Z28!
Maybe I should've been more clear with my post. When I wrote "see above" I was referring my additions that I put in your quote.
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Old 06-16-2015, 06:58 PM   #33
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Man does that thing sound good. Wish I could find one at a reasonable cost.
I ordered mine at MSRP. It's an M6 B5 blue w/ brass monkey wheels and laguna leather seats w/ red seat belts. I belive the sticker is 63,275. I have a VIN just no TPW yet......
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Old 06-16-2015, 08:27 PM   #34
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I ordered mine at MSRP. It's an M6 B5 blue w/ brass monkey wheels and laguna leather seats w/ red seat belts. I belive the sticker is 63,275. I have a VIN just no TPW yet......
Cool! Hopefully you'll get a VIN soon. They're cranking them out now and the wait shouldn't be very long. A lot of the mark ups are beginning to go away.
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Old 06-17-2015, 04:52 AM   #35
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You guys are completely retarded. You offering a complete Z28 parts list like everything listed is a visual mod. Dry sump????? Why list that in a conversation that has to do strictly with the visual differences between a Z28 and a V6 Camaro??? There was also a Z28 at the Car show I was at that no one noticed. It was park with the south jersey Camaro clubs other 10 Camaros. The 3 hellcats had a constant crowd around them. The casual Car show observer doesn't give a crap about that Z28 parts list posted above. It's last years news! But they understand 700+ HORSE POWER!
Actually, I just wanted to present the whole list and rely on you to discern the visual items. Let me help you

Those massive CCB, wheel flares, wickerbill and "big goofy splitter" make quite a visual statement. More so than a Cat Fender badge?

No one in South Jersey notices a Z/28? Perhaps they are "retarded"
1. Rear spoiler with ‘wickerbill’
2. Unique front fascia
3. Front splitter
4. Hood extractor
5. Rocker moldings and wheel flare moldings
6. Front wheelhouse liners
7. Belly pan
8. Thinner rear window glass
9. Lightweight rear seat
10. Lightweight wheels and tires
11. Carbon ceramic brake rotors
12. No Air conditioning
13. LS7 engine with dry-sump oiling
14. Air intake system
15. Track-capable fuel system
16. Active dual-mode exhaust system and high-flow converter assembly
17. TREMEC TR6060 six-speed manual transmission
18. 5.1-ratio short-throw shifter
19. Strut tower brace
20. Zero-preload limited-slip differential
21. Differential cooler
22. Uprated lower control arm ride link “travel limiter” bushing
23. Uprated rear upper control arm bushing and lower trailing link bushings
24. Higher-rate coil springs and smaller-diameter stabilizer bars
25. DSSV® damper technology
26. Performance Traction Management
27. Nineteen-inch wheels and Pirelli PZero Trofeo R tires
28. Brembo® carbon ceramic brakes








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Old 06-17-2015, 06:05 AM   #36
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LOL ok I'm done with this thread. You simply said see above to the entire list. I'm saying the Hellcat has real menacing presence! It's a very sexy car in person. But of course so is your Z28!
the hellcat does NOT have a menacing presence. I saw one the other day and didn't even realize it was a Cat until it was going by and saw the badge on the fender. The Z/28 or the GT350, you know what your looking at when it goes by. the Hellcat you need to look for the badges.

that's not to say I don't think the Hellcat isn't a badass vehicle...I would love to have one. but its more subtitle than its competition visually.
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Old 06-17-2015, 08:46 AM   #38
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Actually, I just wanted to present the whole list and rely on you to discern the visual items. Let me help you

Those massive CCB, wheel flares, wickerbill and "big goofy splitter" make quite a visual statement. More so than a Cat Fender badge?

No one in South Jersey notices a Z/28? Perhaps they are "retarded"


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the hellcat does NOT have a menacing presence. I saw one the other day and didn't even realize it was a Cat until it was going by and saw the badge on the fender. The Z/28 or the GT350, you know what your looking at when it goes by. the Hellcat you need to look for the badges.

that's not to say I don't think the Hellcat isn't a badass vehicle...I would love to have one. but its more subtitle than its competition visually.
Exactly! Some friends and I were at a huge, local car show a few weeks back. We saw a few Hellcats and they all said, "How can you tell?". I said, "You see that 'Screaming Cat Head' on the fender? That is how you can tell.". The Z/28 on the other hand, stands out from any other production Camaro.



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the hellcat does NOT have a menacing presence. I saw one the other day and didn't even realize it was a Cat until it was going by and saw the badge on the fender. The Z/28 or the GT350, you know what your looking at when it goes by. the Hellcat you need to look for the badges.

that's not to say I don't think the Hellcat isn't a badass vehicle...I would love to have one. but its more subtitle than its competition visually.
Do you want a vehicle that looks manacing then pulls up to the lights and clicks off a high 12-sec 1/4 mile, or a vehicle that looks common and then cranks out a low 11-sec 1/4. I know which one I want.
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The HC is definitely an menacing looking vehicle. Saying that it looks like the common challenger is really just as silly as saying a that a Z28 looks like a regular camaro.

No brand sack ridding here.
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I saw one yesterday parked at wal-mart and to tell the truth if it had not been for the hell cat badge I would have thought it was any other Challenger. It did not jump out at me visually like a ZL1 or Z/28 does. Maybe because it was black.
I think that is on purpose, remove the badges and you have a factory sleeper... I remember when GM produced some factory sleepers too, like the 409s you could get in the BelAir and Biscayne models in the early 60's
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Old 06-17-2015, 09:42 AM   #42
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Hellcat Front:


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Slight differences...nothing dramatic to call the Hellcat menacing over a Scat Pack.
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