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Old 05-26-2015, 03:10 PM   #71
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Old 05-26-2015, 03:31 PM   #72
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It's pretty cool if you track cars, but the Z28 is a better deal right now. You can get a fully loaded Z28 for the price of a base GT350R, assuming you can even get the car for MSRP.

The GT350 is a base Mustang with a different engine, for twice as much money. To get goodies that are standard on every other trim, plus the performance suspension etc. that you would really want, the car will cost you $65k.
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Old 05-26-2015, 03:36 PM   #73
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The failure is in the price and not the performance. This is why they are collecting dust on dealers lots. My guess is that the GT350s will sell very well.
Coming from a guy that rides the bus I'm sure $60k pony cars seem unattainable. Show me a better off the shelf track car in a 2+2 for less.

I assume the GT350 will sell well as there is no other hi-po FoMoCo product to oblige Ford buyers wanting more than a 435hp GT. The R version will sell FAR less. Read the Mustang forums - no one wants to deal with CF wheels, A/C, seat delete except hard core track enthusiasts.

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Im just going to leave it at that bc I don't want you and I cluttering up the thread haha.

I get what your saying though, but like you said in your last line, 60K pony cars are now out there and accepted by the public.


I'm shocked we still haven't seen weight, final power figures or performance results yet. Ford dragging its feet. Must still be turning slower lap times than the Z/28
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Old 05-26-2015, 03:53 PM   #74
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The Track Package, meanwhile, adds things like magnetic ride suspension, stiffer springs and additional coolers, and is said to be priced from $6,500.
Magnetic ride? You don't say. A much cheaper car coming out soon has that feature.
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Old 05-26-2015, 03:55 PM   #75
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It's pretty cool if you track cars, but the Z28 is a better deal right now. You can get a fully loaded Z28 for the price of a base GT350R, assuming you can even get the car for MSRP.
By fully loaded, you mean air conditioning and a 6speaker stereo system, right?

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The GT350 is a base Mustang with a different engine, for twice as much money. To get goodies that are standard on every other trim, plus the performance suspension etc. that you would really want, the car will cost you $65k.
Last I checked, that's still considerably less than the MSRP of the z/28. And that car is a track monster, but on an obsolete platform.
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Old 05-26-2015, 04:13 PM   #76
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Lets no pretend the gt350 wont be a killer car/killer deal.

I love it. Its sinister in full black.

Cant wait to see what GM will do if this thing out runs the z28(which it should considering how long they took to build it)
I doubt it will be as impressive as the dinosaur zeta-platform-odds-defying monster the Z is though. Imagine what GM can do with the alpha platform then.

Good times for us car guys:-)
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Old 05-26-2015, 04:33 PM   #77
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Lets no pretend the gt350 wont be a killer car/killer deal.

I love it. Its sinister in full black.

Cant wait to see what GM will do if this thing out runs the z28(which it should considering how long they took to build it)
I doubt it will be as impressive as the dinosaur zeta-platform-odds-defying monster the Z is though. Imagine what GM can do with the alpha platform then.

Good times for us car guys:-)
Base 49K GT350 is not going to outrun the Z/28 except probably in the straights. If the "base" GT350 is an all around better performer everywhere compared to the Z/28....it will pretty much be the best performance car in history ever...when you consider relative price to its competitors. B/c that would mean now you can buy a Porsche 911 GTS killer for 49K.

Not happening.

But the GT350 with track pack for around 57K might be able to put the Z/28 in its place. Maybe? That I can see.

The GT350R? Well...we should fully expect it to be faster than the Z/28. It is impressive that it should also do it for over 10K less (when comparing MSRP)
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It's never been a question of what each car company CAN do, it's a matter of what are they WILLING to do.
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Old 05-26-2015, 05:06 PM   #79
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No way that FPC engine will outrun the LS7, in a straight line. No way.
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Hopefully, this encourages GM to release a Gen 6 Camaro Z28.
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Old 05-26-2015, 05:35 PM   #81
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By fully loaded, you mean air conditioning and a 6speaker stereo system, right?

Last I checked, that's still considerably less than the MSRP of the z/28. And that car is a track monster, but on an obsolete platform.
But Z28s don't sell for MSRP, they sell for 20%+ less than MSRP. Good luck getting that price on the GT350.

I probably shouldn't have even comment in here, because I don't really see the value in either car, because I don't track my cars.

To me, $50k for a stripper model with a bigger engine is a terrible value. If the suspension/brakes/etc. that actually make this car shine were included, then it would be quite special.
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Old 05-26-2015, 06:02 PM   #82
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Here's a fun little graphic for the different "versions" of the 350.

I'd imagine the second "R" on the last one is merely a typo.

(Thanks to crysalis_01)




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Old 05-26-2015, 08:31 PM   #83
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The failure is in the price and not the performance. This is why they are collecting dust on dealers lots. My guess is that the GT350s will sell very well.
If the Z28 is the last 427 camaro, 75k may sound like a deal in 15 years.

I want to see some performance numbers on the GT350, but it certainly seems priced to sell...even in R form.
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Old 05-26-2015, 09:06 PM   #84
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It's pretty cool if you track cars, but the Z28 is a better deal right now. You can get a fully loaded Z28 for the price of a base GT350R, assuming you can even get the car for MSRP.

The GT350 is a base Mustang with a different engine, for twice as much money. To get goodies that are standard on every other trim, plus the performance suspension etc. that you would really want, the car will cost you $65k.
You know nearly nothing about the GT350
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