Walking on the flag

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by KCdaMan

So because people are "very" patriotic that give them the right to do as they please because they don't agree with it? REALLY?!?!?!?! This attitude is dangerous and brazenly stupid. AS I said before for all the super patriots GO SIGN UP! GO fight for the flag you're vehemently defending online! I've grown tired of super patriots that HAVE NEVER, WILL NEVER do anything for this country besides talk a good game. As VET of the USMC of 12 yrs I strongly support EVERYONE having to give at least 2-3 years of their life to support of this country in some way. Whether it's through some sort of civic duty or enlisting in the armed forces. Let's see how many Ted Nugents are out there! He's a self proclaimed super patriot but weaseled his way out of the draft! I'm not accusing all of this, but there are definitely some....

How do you feel about Anthony Johnson?

[scdude37]

KCdaMan I guess im not still seeing how stepping on a symbol of our nation is a racial problem?

This is why the problem will never get fixed on a racial level because always resorting back and not trying to move forward and maybe fix the problem. I have no problems with what color you are. If you are here in the US to have a better life and pay your share have at it. Enjoy it, but I have a problem with people taking advantage of other people and saying people owe them! The statistics will show how that, but there are many races that do that as well. I have seen all of them first hand. But trying to always make these race problems and how its all unfair. Well everyone has an opportunity, some may have it easier or better at first, but that doesnt mean everyone cant take that opportunity to better themselves or their family. Plenty of stories out there to prove this as well. Just a matter of will power.

I still thank you for your service, and hopefully you have a better life later on and teach your kids to be equal to everyone. I dont mean any disrespect to you or anyone, just stating my opinion as you are. Good luck in the future

[KCdaMan]

SCdude.. Resorting back? You mean back to my parents and grandparents. The same grandparents that couldn't vote until they were close to the age of 35 legally and without harassment, death? Going back to that time or even further? Equal opportunity is a BIG LIE and you know it. My grandmother didn't have an opportunity to finish school, get a decent paying job, vote or even build wealth through home ownership. This is a REAL cycle of a current PROBLEM. Sadly history is not on your side. Notice I don't need to go back to the 1800's to prove why the flag doesn't mean the same things to everyone. My grandmother under the American flag couldn't vote until after she was near 37 yrs OLD!! 37! That's a black eye on America and you know it. The mere fact that this story is SO common and has a DIRECT impact on today is troubling and mind boggling how so many pretend not to understand how generational poverty and disenfranchisement has CREATED the things we see today, from stereotypical bad neighborhoods to the wealth gap to the stomping on the flag. THEY are all related and are born out of despair and desperation. Anyway I was really trying not to get too political but the constant denial is simply troubling to me as I have WITNESSED this first hand. All this is part of the reason why I HAD to join the military, no money for education even with scholarships as my mother who was able to land a job at the post office when I was 8, and that was tremendous for our family because my mom along with aunts spent their adult lives taking care of my grandmother who basically had nothing from all those freedom and opportunities she was given.... I guess she was lazy huh? For the record she tried and tried but the barriers in NC were set under jim crow laws that prevailed under the American flag. She like many other elderly black women worked in plants, as maids and housekeepers. Far from lazy was my grandmother, freedom less is more like it.

[pickwithaustin]

My Jewish friends were forced to build the pyramids. What is the point?
AND, it is not only the Vet's who do something good for this country. We thank the Vet's for their service, but there are many who cannot serve, and there are many who do good things for this country without ever having to get on a boat or plane and head off to a foreign land to do battles. Until EVERYONE adjusts to today and works hard together as equals, nothing will change. That said though, where is the stumbling block in achieving such a thing?

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by KCdaMan

SCdude.. Resorting back? You mean back to my parents and grandparents. The same grandparents that couldn't vote until they were close to the age of 35 legally and without harassment, death? Going back to that time or even further? Equal opportunity is a BIG LIE and you know it. My grandmother didn't have an opportunity to finish school, get a decent paying job, vote or even build wealth through home ownership. This is a REAL cycle of a current PROBLEM. Sadly history is not on your side. Notice I don't need to go back to the 1800's to prove why the flag doesn't mean the same things to everyone. My grandmother under the American flag couldn't vote until after she was near 37 yrs OLD!! 37! That's a black eye on America and you know it. The mere fact that this story is SO common and has a DIRECT impact on today is troubling and mind boggling how so many pretend not to understand how generational poverty and disenfranchisement has CREATED the things we see today, from stereotypical bad neighborhoods to the wealth gap to the stomping on the flag. THEY are all related and are born out of despair and desperation. Anyway I was really trying not to get too political but the constant denial is simply troubling to me as I have WITNESSED this first hand. All this is part of the reason why I HAD to join the military, no money for education even with scholarships as my mother who was able to land a job at the post office when I was 8, and that was tremendous for our family because my mom along with aunts spent their adult lives taking care of my grandmother who basically had nothing from all those freedom and opportunities she was given.... I guess she was lazy huh? For the record she tried and tried but the barriers in NC were set under jim crow laws that prevailed under the American flag. She like many other elderly black women worked in plants, as maids and housekeepers. Far from lazy was my grandmother, freedom less is more like it.

Try the year 1651 with Anthony Johnson. We have all been thru bad things, my grand parents could't afford electricity, so what! Some people find ways to get beyond bad things, and move on!

[KCdaMan]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

Try the year 1651 with Anthony Johnson. We have all been thru bad things, my grand parents could't afford electricity, so what! Some people find ways to get beyond bad things, and move on!

Exactly move on...But To a Jewish person such words don't come about. Such phrases are NEVER said by the masses, in fact the masses repeat the "NEVER FORGET" mantra. But I digress, It's obvious merica, it's media and propaganda have succeeded in framing the narrative in favor of the majority. History books, television, media of all sorts have painted a picture that can NEVER be erased because so many are too comfortable with status quo, I get it. Bad things?? Hilarious! And NO WE all have NOT been through even remotely close bad things as you minimize the struggles of many. Typical. I notice that people that think like you love to tout A SINGLE example as the NORM I.E Anthony Johnson, a black land a slave owner, whats next President Obama as prof that merica has always extended the opportunity to become president as black people since its inception? Do you guys live in the matrix or what? If anything YOU PROVE my point. You can NOT find 1 freaking exception to the rule and play pretend. I'm moving on though to do as I normally do here and look at other beautiful Camaros and get ideas. Enjoy your day!

[FenwickHockey65]

[PoorMansCamaro]

It's simple, don't like it here, move. the flag doesn't mean freedom to you, move. Why live in a place that is so horrible? again, just move. get your better opportunity elsewhere.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by KCdaMan

Exactly move on...But To a Jewish person such words don't come about. Such phrases are NEVER said by the masses, in fact the masses repeat the "NEVER FORGET" mantra. But I digress, It's obvious merica, it's media and propaganda have succeeded in framing the narrative in favor of the majority. History books, television, media of all sorts have painted a picture that can NEVER be erased because so many are too comfortable with status quo, I get it. Bad things?? Hilarious! And NO WE all have NOT been through even remotely close bad things as you minimize the struggles of many. Typical. I notice that people that think like you love to tout A SINGLE example as the NORM I.E Anthony Johnson, a black land a slave owner, whats next President Obama as prof that merica has always extended the opportunity to become president as black people since its inception? Do you guys live in the matrix or what? If anything YOU PROVE my point. You can NOT find 1 freaking exception to the rule and play pretend. I'm moving on though to do as I normally do here and look at other beautiful Camaros and get ideas. Enjoy your day!

You could move on faster if you had a V8! See I moved on, that is pure Camaro talk right there!

[pickwithaustin]

AND... it is America, not "merica" :(

[Drumminxx]

Originally Posted by pickwithaustin

AND... it is America, not "merica" :(

He is being a troll now...don't feed jnto it.

[_sleepy_]

[KCdaMan]

Originally Posted by Drumminxx

He is being a troll now...don't feed jnto it.

Actually I'm not, but nice of you to add such thought provoking commentary to the topic.

[Drumminxx]

Originally Posted by KCdaMan

Actually I'm not, but nice of you to add such thought provoking commentary to the topic.

You're welcome