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Old 08-23-2009, 12:22 PM   #1233
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lol teenagers and there shenanigans

put her in the tower until she is arranged to be married
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Old 08-23-2009, 12:26 PM   #1234
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Her real father was killed when she was 2 and half.
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Old 08-23-2009, 12:33 PM   #1235
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I grew up scared of my dad and there would be no way I would have ever come home drunk.
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Old 08-23-2009, 12:34 PM   #1236
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No she was drunk. We know it and she admitted to her mom when she tried to talk her way out of being grounded with a one and one with Kathie. I just hope Kathie finally see's that our daughter is out of control and needs to be brought back into line badly.

Just this week.

My Honda that she is driving she goes and breaks the battery on. I mean the batter is cracked on top from bouncing the car around.

Drives past me with some boy driving my Honda, another boy in the front seat and her in the back.

And now this. All in 1 week. I am really mad.
that is completely unacceptable, with all due respect i do believe you all are being extremely lenient and if you guys dont show some sort of authority she will just continue to believe she can get away with it and only getting slaps on the wrist
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Old 08-23-2009, 02:45 PM   #1237
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ALL parents have problems with teenagers and most either Lie about it or they don't know. At least you know and are willing to take it head on.

Hopefully she's not addicted to smoking yet... that is the hardest to reverse and I would work that angle first...

Good Luck buddy...
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Old 08-23-2009, 03:07 PM   #1238
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Scott, here is what I would do.

First off ground her for 9 weeks, one week for being late, an additional week per hour late, and one month for drinking. During this time no phone, no car, curfew is supper time and must stay home after supper. Any breaking of the rules adds a week.

Find out where her friends live and what they drive. Give this info to your police friends and ask if they will patrol their houses and keep an eye on them when your daughter is with them.

I would also tell her that if she ever gets arrested for drinking or smoking underage, she will be on her own and let her know that even with everything that is going on with Steph, this type of behavior is not acceptable nor will it be tolerated.
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Old 08-23-2009, 03:24 PM   #1239
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The most important thing is for you and Kathie to show a united front, no matter what. Your daughter is testing boundaries and trying to find the weak parent. As the parent of 3 good kids that followed the right path and 1 that made a left turn 3 years ago and still going down the wrong path, I can tell you be strong, pray harder than you have and don't take her actions personally. She may be acting out for attention due to Stephanie's illness or she is just being a "normal" teenager (whatever the heck that really is). Teenagers always find the weak parent and get the fighting going between mom and dad, that takes the real focus off the kid. Please know you are not alone and many of us have teenagers and can gain advice from each other. Keep fighting the good fight.
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:11 PM   #1240
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im 21 turning 22 in a week....i wasnt a bad kid...but i did sneak out and drink....but not to the extent that it would put me and others in danger...

i never ever let my friends drive my dads car when he let me borrow it.

that right there shows she doesnt respect u....and thinks that she can just talk her way out of it.

i dunno...i dont like parents beating there children...but my parents smacked me around(in a disciplinary way) when i was little and i turned out ok....
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:54 PM   #1241
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My kids are only 7 10 and 12. There is a massive difference between our kids and most of the kids they hang out with. The difference being that when we discipline we actually stick to it so we rarely have to. If you say grounded for a week or a month then stick too it. Most parents I see scream a week and 1/2 hour later they feel guilty and let the kid out. We don't give early parole. Those parents bitch about their kids being uncontrolabe all the time. Amazingly I've only ever had one neighbor kid give me a smart mouth and after 3 warnings is no longer allowed in my yard period. He found out I'm not his bluffing mommy or daddy. Check into that cell phone tracking and if she doesn't like it then she doesn't need a cell phone. Also when you ask where she is tell her to send you a pic of the place with her watch in the pic. Aren't camera phones great!
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Old 08-23-2009, 06:19 PM   #1242
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I never partied in high school, although it is worth pointing out that a lot of people go to college and get out of control because they have had no exposure to anything real in their protected environments. I know that I could have gone into my freshman year a lot more experienced and a lot less stupid. In other words, I could have gone into college a little more balanced.

I'm not saying that drinking underage is acceptable, but I would recommend accepting that her defiance now, followed by harsh punishment, will only contribute to more defiant behavior when you aren't around to set her straight.
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:33 PM   #1243
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Scott.

This is coming from a 17 year old...

Don't go easy on her. Do everything everyone above said, especially Zabo's advice. If they catch her drinking, she spends a night in jail, to hell with it.

Sometimes kids need to get the crap kicked out of their system before they'll figure out what's best for them.
i agree with fen. kids think that they can get away with anything and that they will never be reprimanded. they need to be aware of the consciences that illegal behavior has. just my opinion though
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:42 PM   #1244
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If you want my advice, Beat her ...... and this is coming from a 18 year old
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:49 PM   #1245
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Me coming home drunk at 3 am at 17???? My ass would still be in a sling. I am not saying youdrop the hammer on her but its time she gets taught responsibility for her actions, She needs to be grounded for smoking and drinking. And I also say she looses privelages to the car since she broke it. She gets it back when the repairs are paid for by her. If nothing works. ........ as much as I dont like them, I do understand those scared straight programs do work. Ive seen to many peopel die of cancer to smoke. Worked for me.
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:51 PM   #1246
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I grew up scared of my dad and there would be no way I would have ever come home drunk.

First I would take the phone away. There are many parents out there that would not agree with that but take it away. When I ask friends of mine why they gave their kid a phone, they always reply because if they have a problem at school they can get in touch with me. When we went to school no one had cell phones and if there was an emergence a phone was always available. Second the car would be parked in the driveway unless going to school, church, or something you approved of. If my brothers and I abused our privilege of the car, that's what happened. Needless to say it did not happen much. Just saying
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