Tuned hellcat 705whp

[rocket403]

don't let the facts get in your way Medisin

Here is another one 1.1mil cars and trucks compared Challenger gets a higher rating than the Stingray. Ram is not great but Chev and GMC is real bad.
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http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2...3-27151634.pdf

[hotlap]

I'll just leave this here

October 27, 2014
Washington — The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says it has agreed to review a request to open a formal investigation into 4.9 million 2007-14 Chrysler vehicles over electronic failures that may be linked to engine stalling, air bag non-deployments, unintended acceleration or vehicle fires.
In August, the Center for Auto Safety petitioned NHTSA to open a formal investigation into Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep SUVs, pickup trucks and minivans over allegations of failures surrounding the Totally Integrated Power Module, focused on a version known as TIPM-7. As part of its review of the petition, NHTSA sent Chrysler a detailed list of questions last Monday and gave the Auburn Hills unit of Fiat Chrysler Group NV until Nov. 25 to respond. The module controls most of the electronic functions in the vehicle.
NHTSA will decide whether to open a formal defect investigation after it finishes its review of the petition.
In early September, Chrysler said it was recalling 188,000 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee and Dodge Durango SUVS because they may experience a failure in the fuel pump relay within the totally integrated power module, which can result in a failure to start or stall condition. Chrysler said the root cause has been identified as deformation of a contact spring due to the heat caused by power, ambient temperature around the fuel pump relay, and battery voltage. Chrysler said if the vehicle stalls it will maintain power to the air bags. The recall covers vehicles with the TIPM-7 modules, but Chrysler’s recall said the module itself wasn’t defective, but a relay within the module.
Chrysler spokesman Eric Mayne said Monday the company is investigating.
Chrysler told NHTSA in September its investigation was prompted in October 2013 when module parts went on national backorder. Chrysler did an analysis of 10 fuel pump relays as it investigated the issue. Chrysler will install a new fuel pump relay outside the module.
Separately, some Chrysler owners have filed a federal lawsuit in California and lawyers have asked a judge to issue a preliminary injunction requiring Chrysler to warn its customers “of a potentially dangerous condition in their vehicles — a condition that Chrysler had denied but — cannot wait. The risk of serious injury from widespread TIPM failures and stalling is too high to justify keeping Chrysler’s customers in the dark any longer. There is little harm in providing Chrysler’s customers with information so they can take precautionary measures during the litigation, but the consequences of not acting could be severe,” wrote David Stein, a lawyer at San Francisco law firm Girard Gibbs LLP.
Center for Auto Safety executive director Clarence Ditlow said the “Chrysler’s TIPM is a computer run amok — owners report that their vehicles act as if possessed and leave them in dangerous situations — stalled vehicles stranded without warning on the highway, fuel pumps that won’t shut off, windows that open and shut, air bags that won’t deploy.”
He argued that the issue is another example of a potential electronic defect that shows NHTSA needs more expertise in vehicle electronics.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p1N1cW...ature=youtu.be

[MEDISIN]

Originally Posted by rocket403

Found this Medisin from what I see the 3 are very close

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...2_12386-356530

Golly-gee did you find that all on your own? So according to U.S. News (an authority on automotive reliability) the Chevrolet Camaro is more reliable than a Dodge Challenger. Thanks for posting.

Originally Posted by newmoon

Proactive- This is getting really funny. Wasn't GM basically sued to disclose the issues in these recalls after hiding the damaging information since 2001? Didn't the CEO and others loose their jobs over this? Yes sir that is the proactive service we are all looking for.

Yes, just like FCA is being sued for the Grand Cherokee's they refuse to fix that sent numerous men, women and children to their fiery graves.

There is no safer car to buy today than one from a manufacturer that has analyzed and recalled every single potential problem that might occur - even the most trivial. Perhaps why amidst all the recalls GM managed to sell nearly 3-million cars in the U.S. last year, more than any other manufacturer. While Chevrolet gained 4% YOY, Dodge was DOWN 4% from 2013.

Originally Posted by newmoon

Maybe you should review this:
http://autos.jdpower.com/research/Ch...oupe/index.htm

I see a nice red Camaro...so what?

http://autos.jdpower.com/content/buy...ble-coupes.htm

I see two GM products (one Cadillac, one Camaro) listed as most dependable coupes. Dodge conspicuously absent...again.

Originally Posted by rocket403

don't let the facts get in your way Medisin

Here is another one 1.1mil cars and trucks compared Challenger gets a higher rating than the Stingray. Ram is not great but Chev and GMC is real bad.
.
http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2...3-27151634.pdf

You're more amusing than that monkey in The Hangover

Do you even know what you're looking at there? This is from the 2014 Consumer Reports PREDICTED Reliability report. Yes, PREDICTED reliability as tabulated from the Consumer Reports Road Test Score and from survey's of Consumer Reports SUBSCRIBERS.

From the press release: A top score in our tests doesn’t mean a car will be reliable; conversely, reliable cars can—and do—score poorly in our road tests. To take full measure of how the automakers stack up, our brand Report Cards provide a composite of the average road-test score and predicted reliability across their lineup.

Did you fill out and mail in your survey on your Challenger? How many Dodge Challenger owners do you think subscribe to Consumer Reports? Limitations and sample bias aside, the report still shows the Camaro is above average, the Challenger is below average and Dodge ranks lower than both Ford and Chevrolet.

"The Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Fiat brands all scored near or at the bottom, the result of poor reliability and a variety of new or redesigned models with low road-test scores."

Thank you for supporting my point.

[macwest]

BACK to original subject .....


On the hellcat tune did they replace the ECU or actually jail break the ECU?

[rocket403]

Just keep your head in the sand, the three pony cars all score very close to each other. Personal attacks just show how classless you really are.

http://autos.jdpower.com/research/Do...oupe/index.htm

[1fastmf]

I have news for you ladies... If it has wheels or breast its eventually going to give you problems. I couldn't care less about what jdpower has to say

[gen6waiter]

Originally Posted by 1fastmf

I have news for you ladies... If it has wheels or breast its eventually going to give you problems. I couldn't care less about what jdpower has to say

gotta remember that one.

[essess]

I hate to talk down of gm but, medisin, isnt it gm that has blessed car and driver editors with 5 blown engines over the past few years? (2 2014 malibu's, 1 buick regal, 2 corvettes).

[MEDISIN]

Originally Posted by macwest

BACK to original subject .....

On the hellcat tune did they replace the ECU or actually jail break the ECU?

This^ I haven't seen any other "tuned" Hellcat stories. If they did in fact crack the ECU then they will be selling this like hotcakes.

Originally Posted by rocket403

Just keep your head in the sand, the three pony cars all score very close to each other. Personal attacks just show how classless you really are.

http://autos.jdpower.com/research/Do...oupe/index.htm

According to your link, the Camaro has 4/5 star reliability and the Challenger has 3/5 star reliability. I'm not sure how much simpler it can get for you. Every reliability metric on Earth shows the Camaro and Chevrolet more reliable than the Challenger and Dodge. End of story. You can deny it till you're blue in the face but it is the truth.

Originally Posted by essess

I hate to talk down of gm but, medisin, isnt it gm that has blessed car and driver editors with 5 blown engines over the past few years? (2 2014 malibu's, 1 buick regal, 2 corvettes).

So now it's fleet car reliability we're on to? C&D break things constantly, read their long term reports. Those cars are passed around like rentals for their lackey's to flog mercilessly. When problems are assessed over time based on required service visits, no domestic brand has more problems than Dodge...except Jeep.

Now that we have concluded that Dodge and FCA is at the bottom of the reliability barrel, let's get back on topic.

What has this 700RWHP Challenger run at the track??

[macwest]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

This^ I haven't seen any other "tuned" Hellcat stories. If they did in fact crack the ECU then they will be selling this like hotcakes.

So if you have to replace the ECU to get more HP how does that really help? Does not sound like to many hellcats will be running with more HP then stock from factory.

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by macwest

So if you have to replace the ECU to get more HP how does that really help? Does not sound like to many hellcats will be running with more HP then stock from factory.

I used to have to do this on a OBD1 LT1 car back in the late 90's. Not nearly as easy as tuning from the diagnostic port but on that car removing and replacing the ECU took about 15min. Of course if your tune had a problem it would take days to ship back and forth which could be a PITA but its still doable. Just not nearly as easy as a GM or Ford. Of course I say this but have no idea where the ECU is on the Hellcat or if they cracked the ECU tune without removing it. It could be a Royal PITA to remove and replace not to mention super expensive.

[SpeedIsLife]

Latest reports say they cracked the stock ECU. So far 2-3 Hellcats tuned