Official 2014 NFL Regular/Playoff/Super Bowl Discussion Thread

[AZCamaroFan]

i'm thinking mikey the ballboy is taking the rap.

[Tenring]

Originally Posted by Firefighter

The Pats are always going to be known as cheaters.

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That is a fact!

Imagine how much cheating they have got away with without anyone catching them.........they are a disgrace to the NFL and to organized sports.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Firefighter

Fact is when you look back at the Raiders it doesn't matter they still have the rings...

It'll be the same for the Cheatriots...

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True.

And Mark McGuire and Sosa and Bonds will always be seen as big hitters. The 'Elite' who shun them from the hall of fame do not matter. Most people don't give a shit about that. If you ask me, the best home run hitter ever is Barry Bonds. The guy who was intentinoally walked with the bases empty. hahaha

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Tenring

That is a fact!

Imagine how much cheating they have got away with without anyone catching them.........they are a disgrace to the NFL and to organized sports.

So then is Bill Cowher? John Gruden? And others who have all but admmited that they have done shady things that was the norm before the rules came in? They've all laughed at what they used to do before and even after rule changes.

You should say "Because They Got Caught" instead.

[AZCamaroFan]

which version

[PQ]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

which version

Doesn't matter. He's still the greatest home run threat to ever play.

Roids? Yup.

Doesn't change the fact he'll always be remembered for those homers.

[AZCamaroFan]

he was great, but 46 homers was his high before steroids.
plus he always failed in the playoffs.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by PQ

So then is Bill Cowher? John Gruden? And others who have all but admmited that they have done shady things that was the norm before the rules came in? They've all laughed at what they used to do before and even after rule changes.

You should say "Because They Got Caught" instead.

that's a bit important, isn't it? just because something used to be common practice and not against the rule, doesn't mean it's ok to continue those practices when rules are put in place. probably the reason those rules were put in, in the first place. also, no matter how small the advantage is, rules are put in place to keep the playing field neutral besides home field crowds.

[AZCamaroFan]

i blame the nfl. inspecting the balls and then giving them back to a ball boy. why isn't the guy watching the balls an nfl official?

[SSmoothie]

I can wait for Saturday Night Live to have skit about balls.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

that's a bit important, isn't it? just because something used to be common practice and not against the rule, doesn't mean it's ok to continue those practices when rules are put in place. probably the reason those rules were put in, in the first place. also, no matter how small the advantage is, rules are put in place to keep the playing field neutral besides home field crowds.

Well that's what I'm saying. They would still continue to do those things even after the rules were put in. The eye wink and everyone is doing it anyway rules. Point is that those things do exist.

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

i blame the nfl. inspecting the balls and then giving them back to a ball boy. why isn't the guy watching the balls an nfl official?

That article I posted said that they do. A uniformed referee has them the whole time except a few minutes before the game when they give them to the ball boys. AND at half time. They literally would have to deflate/inflate/deflate/inflate to get them 2 pounds low ON THE FIELD in front of everyone.

Doesn't make sense.

I think something could have happened by mistake. And it could have been intentional. We will probably never know.

This article.

[Irishmic]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

been a fins fan since the mid 80's. so I've seen my fair share of the top of the division plenty of times. i'm no bandwagon fan.

how long have you been a fan of the pats, 2001? lol

Well let's see...I remember Jim Plunkett,Hog Hanna,Sam Bam Cunningham,Darryl Stingley, Steve Nelson. Also remember Joe Nameth,Emmerson Boozer. And of course Jim Kiick and Larry Czonka, Greise too. Roman Gabriel, Ken Stabler, Bullet Bob Hayes and Fair Hooker.. How far do you go back???.

[trashmanssd]

Isn't PEDS now against the rules and have a much bigger effect on the games then taping the other teams sideline signals from the wrong location ( you are allowed to tape but only from specific locations) and a slightly under inflated balls (that have yet to be determined who has done it). Yet we don't get all this outrage about the guys the fail these test. Hell they allow you to fail in the off season with no suspension you just go into the undisclosed drug program and it doesn't count as a first strike its a wink wink just do your roids in the off season program.

To put those in car terms one is a parking ticket for parking in a ?loading zone? ?handicap spot? its the wrong spot and technically illegal but its a legal act just in the wrong spot. Other is Like Speeding, doing 75.4 mph in a 65 mph zone will you get a ticket maybe (repeat offender like pats sure will) but I wouldnt call those people a criminal.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Irishmic

Well let's see...I remember Jim Plunkett,Hog Hanna,Sam Bam Cunningham,Darryl Stingley, Steve Nelson. Also remember Joe Nameth,Emmerson Boozer. And of course Jim Kiick and Larry Czonka, Greise too. Roman Gabriel, Ken Stabler, Bullet Bob Hayes and Fair Hooker.. How far do you go back???.

Ok, so if you've been a fan for so long, why didn't you bail out during almost the whole pats franchise before the new millennium? because they've been on the bottom looking up at the dolphins for nearly 3 decades before they became relevant...