Ford Mustang GT350R

[christianmotox]

Pffff...

[BaylorCamaro]

I do think that the GT350R is capable of dethroning the Z/28. It will be interesting to see what happens.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

So, what does one call a 2+2 coupe with no back seat? A 4-2 coupe maybe?

[ilirg]

The z06 beat the 918's time at VIR, anyone who thinks it Will get "shredded" by anything is delusional.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I'm not saying GM doesn't have the ability to make a new n/a LT engine but I am saying I don't believe they will. With the Z51 and Z06 being priced reasonably close, there is no room for another model between them. That would leave a higher end car and that would need to be more powerful car.

If the Zora is going to happen, and that's still a big if, I would be very surprised to see it being n/a. Twin turbos or a supercharger are much more likely.

That leaves GM developing a one off Z/28 engine and that won't happen.

The difference in price between a 1LT Z51 ($59,995) and base Z06 ($78,995) is $19,000. Not really that close but I don't see that as the problem with getting a NA Z06. The problem is that C7 gained weight! In order to build a new Z06 that could outperform the old, 650 HP was needed and they apparently couldn't build a NA engine at the power level.

The recent VIR lap shows the new Z06 is fast so even if it loses a 1/2 second on later laps, its still much faster than the old car. Perhaps the answer for those that crave a NA C7 track Corvette is the Z51.

C7 Z51 2:53.8 sec
2010 C6 Z06 2:53.5 sec
Z/28 2:50.9 sec
C7 Z06 2.41.3 sec

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2012-feature-sortable-times-complete-lightning-lap-times-2006-to-2012-page-8

[TheCaptain]

The GT350 needs a bigger tail.

[DDoug]

mmmm, not released, revealed. Z/28 don't gotta worry for at least a year.

And, SERIOUSLY, cover the front end, Somebody at Ford is a GT-R fan.

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

So, what does one call a 2+2 coupe with no back seat? A 4-2 coupe maybe?

you made me LOL

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

The difference in price between a 1LT Z51 ($59,995) and base Z06 ($78,995) is $19,000. Not really that close but I don't see that as the problem with getting a NA Z06. The problem is that C7 gained weight! In order to build a new Z06 that could outperform the old, 650 HP was needed and they apparently couldn't build a NA engine at the power level.

The recent VIR lap shows the new Z06 is fast so even if it loses a 1/2 second on later laps, its still much faster than the old car. Perhaps the answer for those that crave a NA C7 track Corvette is the Z51.

C7 Z51 2:53.8 sec
2010 C6 Z06 2:53.5 sec
Z/28 2:50.9 sec
C7 Z06 2.41.3 sec

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2012-feature-sortable-times-complete-lightning-lap-times-2006-to-2012-page-8

Or just get the Z/28, there are some great deals to be had on those!

[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by ilirg

OK the mustang wins the drag race, other than that? The gt350 is going to be priced way more than an ss or 1le, so what you going to compare it to? Zl1 z28? Even if if its faster than those 2 its not going to be by much. Cudos to Ford though for stepping it up a notch, the ball is definitely in GM's court now, and I can't see them taking this lying down.

If it's faster and much cheaper that's a HUGE WIN!!! The base gt350 is 150-200lbs lighter with as much o r more power at a much higher rpm. The only thing that would keep it from not besting the z28 is tires abd brakes which is huge but Ford has had success with "basic" brakes before. As for the gt350r that should by all means walk away from the z28 in every way, at least on paper. Only time will tell and I hope gm builds a camaro that's no longer hindered by big brother to run with the stangs in any venue. Another reason why I want the vette to go mid engine so that the camaro has breathing room.

[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

The difference in price between a 1LT Z51 ($59,995) and base Z06 ($78,995) is $19,000. Not really that close but I don't see that as the problem with getting a NA Z06. The problem is that C7 gained weight! In order to build a new Z06 that could outperform the old, 650 HP was needed and they apparently couldn't build a NA engine at the power level.

The recent VIR lap shows the new Z06 is fast so even if it loses a 1/2 second on later laps, its still much faster than the old car. Perhaps the answer for those that crave a NA C7 track Corvette is the Z51.

C7 Z51 2:53.8 sec
2010 C6 Z06 2:53.5 sec
Z/28 2:50.9 sec
C7 Z06 2.41.3 sec

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2012-feature-sortable-times-complete-lightning-lap-times-2006-to-2012-page-8

It's fast but for how many laps? I'm sorry but the intercooling and blower on the lt4 are a huge let down. Gm swore they had it figured out. Clearly they lied. We all expected heat soak but not like it has proven in such a short time.

[ilirg]

Read this thread, there is no heat soak issue, it's a myth and troll fodder. He got faster with each lap, not slower likell the trolls and haters would lead you to believe.
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...ta-review.html

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by ilirg

Read this thread, there is no heat soak issue, it's a myth and troll fodder. He got faster with each lap, not slower likell the trolls and haters would lead you to believe.
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...ta-review.html

So, we have one case of it not suffering from overheating and other temperature issues..

And another where it did (Randy P's run where the Oil Temp caused him to shut down).

Time will tell.

[Denis]

http://horsepowerkings.com/sources-f...50-after-2017/

ford to discontinue v8's?

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by Denis

http://horsepowerkings.com/sources-f...50-after-2017/

ford to discontinue v8's?

Ralph Giles said something similar about Mopar about a month ago, too.