Ford Mustang GT350R

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by 1QwikZ28

My thoughts exactly!!!

I'm still expecting them to make a smaller displacement V8 in the Ecoboost line, but maybe that's just a dream. Now that the Raptor and GT have both gotten the 3.5L, I guess they don't have a need for another EB with high horsepower.

[1QwikZ28]

All we need is for Ford to drop AWD into the Mustang...

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by 1QwikZ28

All we need is for Ford to drop AWD into the Mustang...

I would rather them make a 3.5 EB AWD Fusion ST.

AWD, 395hp 450 TQ...

[72MachOne99GT]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

I'm still expecting them to make a smaller displacement V8 in the Ecoboost line, but maybe that's just a dream. Now that the Raptor and GT have both gotten the 3.5L, I guess they don't have a need for another EB with high horsepower.

Did ford confirm which variant of the 3.5 was going raptoring?

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

Did ford confirm which variant of the 3.5 was going raptoring?

Nope, just that it had a bump in power over the one in the regular F-150.

[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

Maybe you haven't heard the rumor that Chevy is working on a new Camaro and Zora. GM also has a Powertrain Development Headquarters that employees 3800 people. Just because you can't see it today doesn't mean it isn't coming.

Chevy kicked ass with the gen5 Camaro and C6 Corvette. I have no doubts that they will take it to a whole new level with the new engine and chassis platforms. The LT1, LT4 and Z06 are just the beginning.

As long as the camaro is held back by the vette it will always lose to the mustang in most performance tests. Now with the addition of the "GT" the z06 is about to get shredded. Chevys only hope is to bring out the mid engine vette but it will need way more then the lt4.
The 1.7 on the lt4 was a huge waste of time. They choked the engine just so it could fit in the vette. Bad idea imo.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

Maybe you haven't heard the rumor that Chevy is working on a new Camaro and Zora. GM also has a Powertrain Development Headquarters that employees 3800 people. Just because you can't see it today doesn't mean it isn't coming.

Chevy kicked ass with the gen5 Camaro and C6 Corvette. I have no doubts that they will take it to a whole new level with the new engine and chassis platforms. The LT1, LT4 and Z06 are just the beginning.

GM may be working on a Camaro but don't have the proper engine to take on the GT350. It seems more likely it will be just the LT1 and LT4 than anything else. No one has heard any rumors about a new engine being developed and it would have to be pretty far along for it to be in a Camaro soon.

We don't know if there is a Zora coming. All we saw were some spy shots of what may be a mid engine car that may or may not be a Corvette. It might not be a Chevy at all.

[ilirg]

Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

As long as the camaro is held back by the vette it will always lose to the mustang in most performance tests. Now with the addition of the "GT" the z06 is about to get shredded. Chevys only hope is to bring out the mid engine vette but it will need way more then the lt4.
The 1.7 on the lt4 was a huge waste of time. They choked the engine just so it could fit in the vette. Bad idea imo.

In what performance tests did the camaro lose to the mustang? I recall the new gt couldn't even beat out the outgoing 1le....

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

As long as the camaro is held back by the vette it will always lose to the mustang in most performance tests. Now with the addition of the "GT" the z06 is about to get shredded. Chevys only hope is to bring out the mid engine vette but it will need way more then the lt4.
The 1.7 on the lt4 was a huge waste of time. They choked the engine just so it could fit in the vette. Bad idea imo.

Chevy has stated several times that the Camaro will not be held back by Corvette . The undiluted LT4 in the CTS-V gives proof that those days are over.

The Camaro lost to the Mustang in straight line acceleration only and kicked its tail in every other aspect including sales.

Agree that the 1.7 on the LT4 is a mistake and a bigger blower with a power bulge hood would have been better. Sadly, given the increased weight of the C7, a NA engine can't create enough power to make the C7 Z06 faster than the C6. Someone sold to management that they could cool that 1.7L blower so the pressure is on them to prove it.

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

GM may be working on a Camaro but don't have the proper engine to take on the GT350. It seems more likely it will be just the LT1 and LT4 than anything else. No one has heard any rumors about a new engine being developed and it would have to be pretty far along for it to be in a Camaro soon.

We don't know if there is a Zora coming. All we saw were some spy shots of what may be a mid engine car that may or may not be a Corvette. It might not be a Chevy at all.

We don't know what engines GM is working on but we do know that those 3800 employees in powertrain are working on something. I really hope a NA engine and a higher HP FI engine are coming.

The Zora has been rumored for some time, a respected member of Camaro5 said months ago that vendors were already sourced and we've just seen a spy photo of an mid engine mule. Strongly suggests that we will see the Zora. I also think that those spy photos were deliberately allowed to temper yesterdays Ford GT reveal.

Thumbs up to Ford on the GT350(R), GT and FPC engine

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

We don't know what engines GM is working on but we do know that those 3800 employees in powertrain are working on something. I really hope a NA engine and a higher HP FI engine are coming.

The Zora has been rumored for some time, a respected member of Camaro5 said months ago that vendors were already sourced and we've just seen a spy photo of an mid engine mule. Strongly suggests that we will see the Zora. I also think that those spy photos were deliberately allowed to temper yesterdays Ford GT reveal.

Thumbs up to Ford on the GT350(R), GT and FPC engine

I'm not saying GM doesn't have the ability to make a new n/a LT engine but I am saying I don't believe they will. With the Z51 and Z06 being priced reasonably close, there is no room for another model between them. That would leave a higher end car and that would need to be more powerful car.

If the Zora is going to happen, and that's still a big if, I would be very surprised to see it being n/a. Twin turbos or a supercharger are much more likely.

That leaves GM developing a one off Z/28 engine and that won't happen.

[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by ilirg

In what performance tests did the camaro lose to the mustang? I recall the new gt couldn't even beat out the outgoing 1le....

I'm regfering to an ss vs a gt since that's the majority of v8 sales. And let's be real a mustang with beat a camaro in a drag race 9/10 times. On the track the 1le does beat out the pp/mustang but it won't come close to the new 350 twins. IF gm can get the weight right it will be closer but the new 5.2 will still pull away.

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

Chevy has stated several times that the Camaro will not be held back by Corvette . The undiluted LT4 in the CTS-V gives proof that those days are over.

The Camaro lost to the Mustang in straight line acceleration only and kicked its tail in every other aspect including sales.


The Zora has been rumored for some time, a respected member of Camaro5 said months ago that vendors were already sourced and we've just seen a spy photo of an mid engine mule. Strongly suggests that we will see the Zora. I also think that those spy photos were deliberately allowed to temper yesterdays Ford GT reveal.

Thumbs up to Ford on the GT350(R), GT and FPC engine

Look up^^^^^^

[ilirg]

OK the mustang wins the drag race, other than that? The gt350 is going to be priced way more than an ss or 1le, so what you going to compare it to? Zl1 z28? Even if if its faster than those 2 its not going to be by much. Cudos to Ford though for stepping it up a notch, the ball is definitely in GM's court now, and I can't see them taking this lying down.

[MRREVINTO7]

http://www.legendaryspeed.com/new-20...t350r-mustang/

[shank0668]

Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

As long as the camaro is held back by the vette it will always lose to the mustang in most performance tests. Now with the addition of the "GT" the z06 is about to get shredded. Chevys only hope is to bring out the mid engine vette but it will need way more then the lt4.
The 1.7 on the lt4 was a huge waste of time. They choked the engine just so it could fit in the vette. Bad idea imo.

Not saying the GT won't be faster, but I really don't expect the Z06 to get shredded on a track. I think it's a lot faster than you give it credit. I also find if fun that people are worried about the next gen Camaro... I have a feeling that if they want to take on the GT350, they won't have any issue doing so.