Ford is up to something !!!!

[syr74]

Originally Posted by DeathChill

Where in the hell are you getting any of this information? Because a rumour is put out does not make it true. You're clearly just wanting to believe anything good about Ford and the Mustang as you have an obvious bias.

Luckily I don't have the same problem.

Hmmm. Well, I could have gotten a lot of this information when a 2011 model year Mustang specific part number was discovered for the 3.7L Duratec V6, a reality I posted on this forum with links two months ago.

Or, I could have discovered that the Mustang would get a 3.7L Duratec V6 for the 2011 model year when media outlets like Automobile Magazine began reporting that Ford has confirmed that this very engine will be available in the Mustang for the 2011 model year.

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6522...v-6/index.html

But then again, I can actually use basic tools like search engines folder facts like these easily, a 'problem' you don't seem to have.

To be fair though, you could have been referring to my assertion that the 3.7L will make the base Mustang lighter than the current model and improve overall balance. Again, I can see where you might think I am going out on a limb here since the only existing information upon which I could base such a claim is widely known reality that the existing and extremely large, cast iron 4.0L Cologne V6 weighs significantly more than the likewise existing all aluminum 3.7L V6.

Such a narrow focus leaves out many possibilities. Ford could be designing a completely new and significantly heavier 3.7L V6 for Mustang duty, or they could be adding lead ballasts to the 2011 Mustang to make up for the undesirable weight loss the 3.7L V6 will bring to the car.

Even more, it was equally unfair to assume that, since the 3.7L already produces 275hp and 270lb-ft of torque on regular unleaded, the newer, second generation version employed in the Mustang would at least match this. It is plausible that Ford would decide to detune an already modestly tuned engine currently serving duty in a relatively mundane luxury sedan for duty in a sporty coupe evn though such a move wouldn't improve fuel economy..

I apologize for confusing you with facts and logic.

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by syr74

Hmmm. Well, I could have gotten a lot of this information when a 2011 model year Mustang specific part number was discovered for the 3.7L Duratec V6, a reality I posted on this forum with links two months ago.

Or, I could have discovered that the Mustang would get a 3.7L Duratec V6 for the 2011 model year when media outlets like Automobile Magazine began reporting that Ford has confirmed that this very engine will be available in the Mustang for the 2011 model year.

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6522...v-6/index.html

But then again, I can actually use basic tools like search engines folder facts like these easily, a 'problem' you don't seem to have.

To be fair though, you could have been referring to my assertion that the 3.7L will make the base Mustang lighter than the current model and improve overall balance. Again, I can see where you might think I am going out on a limb here since the only existing information upon which I could base such a claim is widely known reality that the existing and extremely large, cast iron 4.0L Cologne V6 weighs significantly more than the likewise existing all aluminum 3.7L V6.

Such a narrow focus leaves out many possibilities. Ford could be designing a completely new and significantly heavier 3.7L V6 for Mustang duty, or they could be adding lead ballasts to the 2011 Mustang to make up for the undesirable weight loss the 3.7L V6 will bring to the car.

Even more, it was equally unfair to assume that, since the 3.7L already produces 275hp and 270lb-ft of torque on regular unleaded, the newer, second generation version employed in the Mustang would at least match this. It is plausible that Ford would decide to detune an already modestly tuned engine currently serving duty in a relatively mundane luxury sedan for duty in a sporty coupe evn though such a move wouldn't improve fuel economy..

I apologize for confusing you with facts and logic.

I apologize for my initial post, I didn't see that you were talking about the V6, hence the confusion. However, regardless making such bold statements about how the 2011 Mustang will be the best ponycar is just nonsense until all three 2011 cars are here for comparison.

I don't doubt that the Mustang will be a great car; I think it already is. However, I don't find it a good strategy to believe the best case scenario for everything before anything has even been announced.

[Rippin]

Originally Posted by syr74

Of course, because while the current Mustang GT with Track Pack is one of the best handling American cars ever produced somehow shaving about 200lb off the nose and 100lb off the rear of that basic setup will ruin all of that since, as we know, more weight is a good thing.

I think what he is refering to is the FRHP (Ford Racing Handling Pack).

I have this on my car and is it an amazing differance over stock.

There are 3 settings road/road&track/track.

Mine is set to road&track.

You do feel every bump in the road but the handling is well worth it. I've taken some tight corners and glanzed down at the speedo and said to myself, man I'm doing 70mph on a 35mph posted turn. It never felt for a minute it was being pushed. I highly recommend it to other Mustang GT guys.

I generally don't bash other cars except when someone is putting my car down. I think it is great to see the American muscle cars come back strong and with style. I wish I was rich I would have all 3 new muscle cars in my garage.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by Rippin

I think what he is refering to is the FRHP (Ford Racing Handling Pack).

I have this on my car and is it an amazing differance over stock.

There are 3 settings road/road&track/track.

Mine is set to road&track.

You do feel every bump in the road but the handling is well worth it. I've taken some tight corners and glanzed down at the speedo and said to myself, man I'm doing 70mph on a 35mph posted turn. It never felt for a minute it was being pushed. I highly recommend it to other Mustang GT guys.

I generally don't bash other cars except when someone is putting my car down. I think it is great to see the American muscle cars come back strong and with style. I wish I was rich I would have all 3 new muscle cars in my garage.

Actually no, I'm referring to the 2010 Mustang in general and indirectly the Track Pack equipped 2010 Mustang.

[Russo]

so long as the 2011 GT gets the tr6060 with the DOHC 5.0 i may hold out for it... friend of mine just got a 2010 GT500, that thing looks amazing

[RealQuickCamaro]

is there any reason to think they might bump it up 300 hp to match camaro ??


something about this makes me think they might
Ford had to revise the engine for longitudinal placement in the Mustang, revisions that included a new intake manifold, exhaust manifolds, and accessory drive system. The final outputs will differ from the Lincoln's numbers, and we're guessing the engine will be slightly more potent in the Mustang application.

[Sstac]

Originally Posted by Bulldogwinters

I live in Montana and that's all you see. i would hate to imagine what it's like in bigger cities

I live in south jersey and thats ALL i see around here... mustangs ... I'm 20mins from Atlantic city...
There is even an orange one in the parking lot of my office building.

[0235th]

OHHHHH.....Its crazy. Im lovin the total rebirth of muscle cars. BRING MORE AND MORE POWER!

[rickerda]

Lets enjoy it while we can, because I have a feeling that all good things will come to end.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by RealQuickCamaro

is there any reason to think they might bump it up 300 hp to match camaro ??


something about this makes me think they might
Ford had to revise the engine for longitudinal placement in the Mustang, revisions that included a new intake manifold, exhaust manifolds, and accessory drive system. The final outputs will differ from the Lincoln's numbers, and we're guessing the engine will be slightly more potent in the Mustang application.

Indeed. We already know that the engine is a sort of 'gen II light' with improvements in the intake manifold, etc. It produces more power than the unit in the MKS, we just have no idea how much more power it produces.

As for a 300hp rating. Nothing is impossible, but I am looking for 280-290hp, which should be plenty in a Mustang which should come in under 3300lb.