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Old 12-23-2014, 10:46 AM   #99
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Old 12-23-2014, 10:59 AM   #100
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Well the Caddy is now out of the box and since this is the Camaro site it seems perfectly logical to to extrapolate what the next ZL1 will look like since the last ZL1 came one year after the gen 2 CTS-V. For all of the guys saying it will not make any more power than a vette, I say bologna... That is like saying a challanger will never make more power than a viper... times are changing. The writing is on the wall for a new mid engine vette... in the interim the ZL1 may be the top dog for power in the GM line-up. I think this would be a very smart move for GM... just my opinion.
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Old 12-23-2014, 11:56 AM   #101
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It was recorded by the Car&Driver magazine crew during the CTS-V reveal event in an enclosed space. While it's only a few seconds long, the audio sampler gives us an idea of what to expect when the car makes its full video debut in the coming days or weeks.

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Old 12-23-2014, 04:04 PM   #102
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Yes! A true wagon fan! That E63 Wagon is awesome! But alas, will never see these shores. The Audi RS6 Avant either
Indeed I am! Every time I see a Magnum on the street I tear up a LITTLE bit. Wish I didn't trade it in, but the tranny and front end were giving me all sorts of issues.

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If they do bring back a wagon I'd sell a kidney to get one. In white, all performance aero options and Recaro seats.

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[FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Navy"]640 hp raises the eyebrows in the intended circles that Cadillac is competing in, the other luxury performance sedans
Nice post. I love the BMW's engine bay.
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Old 12-23-2014, 11:47 PM   #103
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Surprised nobody has really touched on the weight loss compared to the outgoing model.
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Old 12-24-2014, 12:25 AM   #104
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Surprised nobody has really touched on the weight loss compared to the outgoing model.
It was mentioned a bit in a thread on camaro6. The New one comes in at 4145lb per the release, while the outgoing model was/is something like 4204 or 4220lbs. That gives you a loss of 59-75lbs, which is a 1.4-1.8% loss.
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Old 12-24-2014, 07:29 AM   #105
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It was mentioned a bit in a thread on camaro6. The New one comes in at 4145lb per the release, while the outgoing model was/is something like 4204 or 4220lbs. That gives you a loss of 59-75lbs, which is a 1.4-1.8% loss.
That is a nice savings especially since the new car is much larger in actual size to truly compete with the E class and 5 series with the old car being more of a tweener in size.
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Old 12-24-2014, 11:34 AM   #106
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It was mentioned a bit in a thread on camaro6. The New one comes in at 4145lb per the release, while the outgoing model was/is something like 4204 or 4220lbs. That gives you a loss of 59-75lbs, which is a 1.4-1.8% loss.
The automatic equipped V2 sedan weighs 4,253lbs according to Cadillac specs. So a little over 100lb weight loss while adding 90hp/80lb-ft, more head and leg room up front, stiffer chassis, bigger brakes, wheels, tires. A great feat considering the competitors in this class have less power and weigh 200-400lb more.
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Old 12-24-2014, 03:42 PM   #107
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Hope to heck that GM put the SC LT4 in the 2016 ZL1.
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Hope to heck that GM put the SC LT4 in the 2016 ZL1.
I would be surprised if we get a 6th Gen ZL1 in the 2016 MY, my guess is closer to the 2018 MY.
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Hope to heck that GM put the SC LT4 in the 2016 ZL1.
Hopefully by then it has a better blower.
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Old 12-24-2014, 11:35 PM   #110
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That is a nice savings especially since the new car is much larger in actual size to truly compete with the E class and 5 series with the old car being more of a tweener in size.
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The automatic equipped V2 sedan weighs 4,253lbs according to Cadillac specs. So a little over 100lb weight loss while adding 90hp/80lb-ft, more head and leg room up front, stiffer chassis, bigger brakes, wheels, tires. A great feat considering the competitors in this class have less power and weigh 200-400lb more.
But the interior is actually larger in the 2008-2014 cts by 1 cuft (98cuft vs 97 cuft) .
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(For this demonstration unit, the welded aluminum stampings of the sheer plate are polished. You won’t find that on the showroom floor, but this large structural element stiffens the bodywork substantially, and helps resist cornering forces for improved handling and steering feel. The central forward mounted portion is shared with ATS-V, which gets shorter arms reaching back to pick up the sills. Lesser CTS and ATS models get no such plate, though a steel bar mounts roughly where you see the square bar that passes just behind the engine oil pan.)

(This aluminum strut tower brace works in conjunction with the sheer plate and some further bracing that triangulates the frame rails to the radiator support to greatly increase the body structure’s torsional rigidity.)

(There is a whole lotta cooling going on up front. Air that flows through the transmission cooler exits here. The cooled transmission fluid flows first to the e-Diff, then heads back to the 8L90 transmission.)

(The transmission case and the tail-shaft are unique for this front-mounted CTS-V application, but everything inside is shared with the latest Corvette transaxle. This transmission is 28 pounds lighter than its six-speed predecessor.)

(Like the transmission, the internals of the electronically controlled locking rear differential are shared with the Corvette, but the programming is optimized for the very different handling characteristics of this much larger sedan.)

(Here you can see the cooling lines running just outboard of the exhaust pipes back to the electronic differential.)

(The big outboard openings in the lower fascia each house an auxiliary radiator. This one on the left adds a bit more capacity to the intercooler circuit, the one on the right cools an extra engine-coolant heat exchanger.)

(The large grille you see here exhausts hot air from the auxiliary engine-coolant radiator, while the small high-velocity duct routes high-pressure cool air from the fascia-mounted brake duct at a deflector panel that sends it onto the rotor.)

(The little “air fence” shown here helps route air around the tire for reduced drag. This piece is eliminated with purchase of the carbon package, as the extended chin splitter that comes with that option does the job.)
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To help dry the tears of fans mourning the loss of the CTS-V family of coupe, wagon, and sedan offerings, the new replacement sedan will be fortified with even more vitamins H and T: SAE-certified horsepower and torque ratings come in at 640 hp and 630 lb-ft, up from the outgoing supercharged 6.2-liter's 556 hp and 551 lb-ft. No row-your-own option will be offered, as the new ATS-V coupe and sedan -- both offered with a stick -- will now fill that extreme track-star niche, allowing the CTS-V to become more refined and luxurious. Hence the sole offering of a swift-shifting 8L90E eight-speed automatic. With a curb weight of 4150 pounds (6.5 lb/hp), that will help deliver 0-60-mph acceleration in an officially -- and perhaps conservatively quoted -- 3.7 seconds. Also new: This Corvette Z06-derived powertrain features an Eco driving mode that enables cylinder deactivation for tiptoeing around in dainty fuel-sipping four-cylinder mode.

Like its new ATS-V sibling, the CTS-V gets a 50-percent increase in total front grille area, and cooling this new supercharged 6.2-liter requires every square millimeter of that space -- there are no grille shutters, and adaptive cruise control is not available, because the radar unit would block too much air. (The ATS-V offers ACC.) The carbon-fiber hood, bulged for engine clearance, features a big air extractor, as do the flared fenders. And the rest of the styling flourishes are all similarly functional, including the front splitter and decklid spoiler that reduce lift on all CTS-Vs.

An optional carbon-fiber package extends the chin splitter and spoiler by about an inch each to provide measurable downforce at the officially quoted top speed of 200 mph. Those parts are rendered in exposed-weave carbon fiber, as are the hood air-extractor vents and rear diffuser, Gurney-lip air deflectors in front of the front wheels, and side sill extensions that round out the package. Those last two work to smooth airflow, winning back a few points of drag added by the bigger splitter and spoiler. Oh, and a special camera will help drivers avoid curbing that pricey front splitter. Other visual differentiators include Galvano low-luster brightwork around the grille, side windows, fender air extractors, etc., and 19-inch wheels in After Midnight black chrome (two other wheel finishes will be offered to coordinate with the seven initial paint colors).

Suspension changes largely mirror those of the ATS-V, with less extreme increases in spring and anti-roll bar rates. (Spring rates increase 11 percent front and rear, and bars increase from 25 to 27mm in front, 23 to 26mm in the rear.) Chief engineer Dave Leone says the ride quality is considerably more refined than the ATS-V's and might even feel plusher than the CTS Vsport's thanks to the Gen III Magnetic Ride Control tuning. (It features a dual coil system that doubles the magnetic force acting on the metal particles and broadens the range of damping rates, and increased processing power permits 40-percent faster damping response.) Premium fluid-filled hydrobushings are employed on the forward (ride control) links in the front and rear suspensions, the lateral links that resist cornering forces are 50-70-percent stiffer, and the toe-control links use metal-sphere "cross-axis" bushings that offer virtually no deflection. There is also an aluminum sheer panel that bolts under the engine-cradle/K-member and works in conjunction with the upper strut tower brace and some additional bracing to the radiator support to greatly increase torsional rigidity for improved steering feel.

Bigger, higher offset wheels wearing 265/35R19 front and 295/30R19 rear Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires broaden the footprint a lot, moving the outer face of the tires outboard 1.4 inches in front, 1.3 inches in the rear. Those custom tires feature Michelin's new Twaron Belt technology, which features three different tread compounds. The wide outermost rib has a harder tread compound to fight shoulder wear. The center and innermost ribs have a different hard compound that aids with initial bite on turn in and is also optimized for lower temperatures and wet conditions. The remaining ribs on either side of the center have a very soft compound for exceptional acceleration and braking grip.

The technology derives from Michelin's Le Mans racing effort.

Counteracting the LT4's mighty motive force are Brembo brakes with six-piston front and four-piston rear calipers (available in standard gold or optional red and grey) biting 15.4-inch two-piece front and 14.4-inch single-piece rear steel rotors. These big, fade-free, track-optimized brakes -- said to be the largest Brembo makes in steel, come standard on all CTS-Vs and are up to coping with a stop from 200 mph.

Inside this more sybaritic CTS-V are acres of standard suede-like material and carbon-fiber accent panels. Choose the black-and-saffron color scheme, and the carbon-fiber weave will include saffron accent strands. (Other color choices include black and gray or all black.) Optional 20-way adjustable Recaro seats are backed in suede to dress up the rear compartment, and a suede-covered steering wheel and shifter are options. Other options include a two-panel panoramic moonroof, a luxury package (three-zone climate control, heated rear seats, split-folding rear seatbacks, and rear sunshades). A Performance Data Recorder like that in the Corvette is also offered, providing video downloads of great driving roads for your Vine/Snapchatting pleasure.

Look for CTS-V sedan sales to start in the summer of 2015 as a 2016 model, with prices in the $80,000 range.
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Old 12-26-2014, 07:45 AM   #112
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