GM Reveals 2016 Cadillac CTS-V

[Snakedriver]

The 2016 CTS-V gets the LT4 so the logical choice for the next Gen Camaro ZL1 is the LT4.

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/12/22/2...oit-auto-show/

[Cuzin4abruisin]

Shit I'm looking to buy now esp with 20% off But I'd hate to buy now and see it come out with 640 hp!!

[370zyzfr1]

Originally Posted by Cuzin4abruisin

Shit I'm looking to buy now esp with 20% off But I'd hate to buy now and see it come out with 640 hp!!

I am doing the same! Hate to wait another year though and pay 20% more.

[flatrockguy]

The new ZL1 won't be out for a couple more years. So buy one now then upgrade when the new one comes out. That's what I plan on doing in the spring. I love my CTS-V but when the lease is up in the spring the new CTS-V is going to be out of my financial range so I'm going with the ZL1 and by the time that lease is up I'll step into the next gen. At least that is my plan. I thought of the ATS-V but I just can't bring myself to buy a V6, even if it is fast.

[King T]

Originally Posted by MaroSS

Anyone else catch the NO manual transmission?

With a 15% take rate on the sedan and coupes it is not a surprise the manual didn't return. I love manuals, but I understand.

From Motor Trend:

Curious note about CTS-Vs and manual transmissions. Approximately 15 percent of the sedans and coupes sold have three pedals. However, 30 percent of the wagons -- around 450 out of about close to 1,400 -- are manuals. Makes perfect sense to me. I just wonder what's wrong with the 70 percent who went for the auto.

[King T]

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

Yeah, but maybe they'll fix that in a year or two.

If it doesn't debut with the manual I don't see it getting it in a couple of years. Matter of fact I think more people will be asking for either DCT or AWD moreso than a manual in the CTS-V.

[King T]

Originally Posted by Splitter

I hate sedans.

Bring back the wagon and make a coupe!

Sigh.

I love cool wagons, but America's love with CUV/SUV has killed wagons and stopped cool wagons from Audi, BMW, Mercedes, etc. brought over because they will not sale.

Cadillac only sold around 7,000 total CTS wagons during its 4 years of prouduction and only 1,386 CTS-V wagons

[Splitter]

Originally Posted by King T

I love cool wagons, but America's love with CUV/SUV has killed wagons and stopped cool wagons from Audi, BMW, Mercedes, etc. brought over because they will not sale.

Cadillac only sold around 7,000 total CTS wagons during its 4 years of prouduction and only 1,386 CTS-V wagons

The only wagon rarer is the E63 AMG.

I would do dirty things to own either one.

Hell, I saw a Jag wagon last night and double took, I had no idea they even made wagons.

Oh well.

[Splitter]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

CTS-V is a volume car?

And it's a Cadillac. The volumes aren't supposed to be able to afford it.

I meant the CTS is a volume car. My b.

[King T]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

V1 2004: $49,995
V2 2009: $59,995
V3 2015: $85,000???

That seems a little aggressive, especially considering the Z06 starts at $79,000 and the V has always been less than the Z06.

I would guess $70-75k MSRP for a no option model. The Vsport is $59,000. I can't imagine a $25,000 markup for the V.

The 2014 CTS-V was $64,900, with options taking it to $73,000
http://www.cadillac.com/cts-v-luxury-sedan.html

The 2014 CTS VSport does start at $59,990, but the CTS VSport Premium is $69,995. Add a select interior trim and the VSport cracks $70k. I would think that a "base" V would be over what a fully loaded VSport would be.

[King T]

Originally Posted by Splitter

The only wagon rarer is the E63 AMG.

I would do dirty things to own either one.

Hell, I saw a Jag wagon last night and double took, I had no idea they even made wagons.

Oh well.

Yes! A true wagon fan! That E63 Wagon is awesome! But alas, will never see these shores. The Audi RS6 Avant either

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by King T

Yes! A true wagon fan! That E63 Wagon is awesome! But alas, will never see these shores. The Audi RS6 Avant either

If they do bring back a wagon I'd sell a kidney to get one. In white, all performance aero options and Recaro seats.


Are you listening Cadillac?

[newmoon]

Great job by Cadillac while I never did care for the present CTS-V, this one looks great. This is a good preview of what the next generation ZL1 might be. Hopefully GM will get the overheating or tuning issues causing problems in the Z06 worked out before this car hits the dealers.

[King T]

Originally Posted by lbls1

Good point; Cadillac will need to focus on the combination of luxury and power, since 640 hp alone isn't really raising eyebrows with the Hellcat sedan present. The power rating is outstanding, but its the fact that the hp competition has heated up between the domestic brands to such a point, that IMO one doesn't readily get impressed by a given hp rating by itself.

640 hp raises the eyebrows in the intended circles that Cadillac is competing in, the other luxury performance sedans:






Cadillac CTS-V
Wheelbase: 114.6 in.
Length: 197.6 in.
Height: 57.2 in.
Width: 72.2
Engine: 6.2L Supercharged V8
Power: 640 hp/630 lb-ft
Transmission: Hydra-Matic 8L90 8-Speed Automatic
Drive Config: RWD
Weight: 4,145 lbs
Mfr claim 0-60 mph: 3.7 sec
MSRP: $80,000 (est.)









Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG (and E63 AMG S)
Wheelbase: 113.2 in.
Length: 192.1 in.
Height: 56.8 in.
Width: 73.7 in.
Engine: 5.5L Twin Turbo V8
Power: 550 hp/531 lb-ft (577 hp/590 lb-ft for E63 AMG S)
Transmission: 7-speed AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT Automatic
Drive Config: 4Matic AWD
Weight: 4,387 lbs (4,431 for E63 AMG)
Mfr claim 0-60 mph: 3.6 sec (3.5 for E63 AMG S)
(Motor Trend best time for E63 AMG S: 0-60 mph in 3.4 sec)
MSRP: $93,600 ($100,600 for E63 AMG S)







BMW M5 (and M5 Competition Package)
Wheelbase: 116.7 in.
Length: 193.5 in.
Height: 57.3 in.
Width: 74.4 in.
Engine: 4.4L Twin Turbo V8
Power: 560 hp/500 lb-ft (575 hp/500 lb-ft for Competition Package)
Transmission: 7-speed M Double Clutch Transmission/ 6 Speed Manual
Drive Config: RWD
Weight: 4,387 lbs(Auto)/4,354 lbs (Manual)
Mfr claim 0-60 mph: 4.2 sec (4.3 sec for manual)
(Motor Trend best time for M5: 0-60 mph in 3.9 sec)
MSRP: $93,600 ($100,900 for Competition M5)





2016 Audi S6
Wheelbase: 114.8 in.
Length: 193.9 in.
Height: 56.3 in.
Width: 73.8 in.
Engine: 4.0L Twin Turbo V8
Power: 450 hp/406 lb-ft
Transmission: 7-speed S-Tronic DCT
Drive Config: Quattro AWD
Weight: 4,398 lbs
Mfr claim 0-60 mph: 4.4 sec
(Car and Driver best time: 0-60 3.7 sec for the 2013 S6 )
MSRP: $80,000







Jaguar XFR (and XFR-S)
Wheelbase: 114.5 in.
Length: 195.9 in.
Height: 57.5 in.
Width: 73.9 in.
Engine: 5.0L Supercharged V8
Power: 510 hp/461 lb-ft (550 hp/502 lb-ft for XFR-S)
Transmission: ZF 8-speed automatic transmission
Drive Config: RWD
Weight: 4,380 lbs
MSRP: $83,550 ($99,500 for XFR-S)



Lexus GS-F (Debuts at Detroit Auto Show)
Wheelbase: 112.2 in.
Length: 190.7 in.
Height: 57.3 in.
Width: 72.4 in.
Engine: 5.0L V8
Power: 467-500+ hp
Transmission: 8 Speed Sport Direct Shift
Drive Config: RWD
Weight: ???
Mfr claim 0-60 mph: ???
MSRP: ???



While the Hellcat Charger will still be top dog as far as hp, Cadillac (or Mercedes or BMW or Lexus or Jaguar, etc) will not be trying to compete with it.