new mustang slower than old 5.0, bad wheel hop

[SpeedIsLife]

I think the days of the Mustang being a consistent in the 1/4 are over.

[khell86]

Originally Posted by rocket403

Looks like the Mustang is now on the slow end of the 3 pony cars with the 392 RT running low 12 stock

I've yet to see a stock 392 RT hit low 12's yet? Where is this at?

This car has been out for 3 weeks. Give it some time lol.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by khell86

I've yet to see a stock 392 RT hit low 12's yet? Where is this at?

This car has been out for 3 weeks. Give it some time lol.

This one did have aftermarket wheels and street tires, but you get the idea:
http://www.challengertalk.com/forums...inside-276162/


This is a recent 14-model, the R/T should be quicker more power and a better transmission.
http://www.challengertalk.com/forums...2-37-a-274090/

[rocket403]

Ya I guess the new 392 RT is in ZL1 territory now

[NASTY99Z28]

Scat pack is the new n/a king. The mustang and camaro are more of a drivers race then ever before but with the odds being in the favor of the mustang. Let's see what the 6th gen can do.

[rocket403]

Hail the new n/a King 392 SP RT LOL

[khell86]

Originally Posted by newmoon

This one did have aftermarket wheels and street tires, but you get the idea:
http://www.challengertalk.com/forums...inside-276162/


This is a recent 14-model, the R/T should be quicker more power and a better transmission.
http://www.challengertalk.com/forums...2-37-a-274090/

Dodge definitely knows how to make that traction control work. These 60' times they're coming up with is ridiculous. I still think it'll be a drivers race. In that second link they talk about their friend who had a 2012 GT with 3.73 gears and on stock tires also ran a 12.3. Sounds like some great air wherever they're at.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by khell86

Dodge definitely knows how to make that traction control work. These 60' times they're coming up with is ridiculous. I still think it'll be a drivers race. In that second link they talk about their friend who had a 2012 GT with 3.73 gears and on stock tires also ran a 12.3. Sounds like some great air wherever they're at.

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This is the key to making the 392 run well. Trying to hook 475-lbs of torque with a 245-series street tire is what is leading to all the 12:60-13:00s that you see being published. Most think they can do a better job launching the car nanny free and end up with 2:00s to 2:20s 60' times.

Dodge makes it so simple no need for the antics. Simply place the car in auto-stick, leave the ESC on, launch at 1000-rpms and bang there is a 1:80-1:90 60'. It took me several trips to the track running high 12s to figure this out.

I have to wonder if the same is the case for the Hellcat and the slower mag. time E/Ts.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by newmoon

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This is the key to making the 392 run well. Trying to hook 475-lbs of torque with a 245-series street tire is what is leading to all the 12:60-13:00s that you see being published. Most think they can do a better job launching the car nanny free and end up with 2:00s to 2:20s 60' times.

Dodge makes it so simple no need for the antics. Simply place the car in auto-stick, leave the ESC on, launch at 1000-rpms and bang there is a 1:80-1:90 60'. It took me several trips to the track running high 12s to figure this out.

I have to wonder if the same is the case for the Hellcat and the slower mag. time E/Ts.

C'Mon man I thought we all realized now that the hellcat is all marketing propaganda lol

["Charlene"]

Originally Posted by khell86

I've yet to see a stock 392 RT hit low 12's yet? Where is this at?

This car has been out for 3 weeks. Give it some time lol.

I think I'm the only one running low 12s right now in their new scat pack. This was no hero run either. I backed this up a couple weeks later with an identical 12.28 with a slightly slower 60 at 1.87. Ran a couple 12.3 and about 3 12.4s very consistently. I think the 295 super sports are helping me and hurting me. Helping in that they are the stickiest street tire out there and hook pretty damn good but they're heavier than the stock tires as are the american racing wheels. I wish I could have tested the car with the 20x9 forged wheels on to see how it did with the 295s on the back. probably could have hit a 12.1

[Q'smuscle]

Nice!

[sizl1]

guys - the live rear axle is faster around a track than IRS - that's a fact. The only reason why it was inferior was because of the panhard bar. With a Watts Link, a live rear axle mimics F1 suspension as both wheels contact the pavement at all times around a corner. The IRS is superior for the street where exists road quality variability (ie. potholes), and where you do not want the upsetting of one wheel to affect the other. Such road quality variability conditions do not exist on the track, ergo the live rear axel + watts link is superior to IRS for track and drag applications.

If you read between the lines in track comparisons, reviewers only complain about the Mustang suspension in S-bends, which shows where the panhard bar contributes to instability. This issue would not exist with a Watts Link.