2015 Road & Track Performance Car of The Year

i2disturbedSS · 11-11-2014, 05:49 PM

http://www.roadandtrack.com/features...ar-of-the-year

SpeedIsLife · 11-11-2014, 05:58 PM

Ouch...

Front Runner · 11-11-2014, 07:23 PM

Not shocked.....

Todd in Vancouver · 11-11-2014, 07:31 PM

There is a price to pay for being an ultimate track weapon.

Smhenry · 11-11-2014, 07:54 PM

Crickets...

stoopid · 11-12-2014, 07:08 AM

Porsche? I didn't know they were still making cars.

shaffe · 11-12-2014, 11:57 AM

R&T really had quite the collection of cars there. Just quickly glanced at the finalists, thought for sure the Z/28 was going to be in the final 3. I will have to read the full article at lunch today.

PoorMansCamaro · 11-12-2014, 12:01 PM

I don't understand, the article at the top says 2015, and the thing on the bottom says 2014

serpent · 11-12-2014, 12:16 PM

Were you guys really surprised? The Z28 is a bad ass ride and (imo) expensive for a track car camaro @ 75k, but this list of competing 100k+ cars, I didnt even think the z28 would come in 5th.
VIR is a track that really fooled me when it came to lap times. I can't wait to see next years lightning lap with the TA 2.0, 991 GT3, 458 Speciale, C7Z, hell I hope the GT350 is in that list too!!

shaffe · 11-12-2014, 12:30 PM

Just got done reading the whole article. It's interesting to see different opinions, MT drivers car Z/28 walked away with the title, R&T it didn't make the top 3. What I liked about this article is it seems like they gave every car a fair shake. I wonder how the outcome would have been had they had a pro driver like Randy Probst give his input if it would have changed anything.

SEVEN-OH JOE · 11-14-2014, 02:45 PM

Things that make you say, "hmmmm".

I recall the gales of laughter and derisive rhetoric from the Ford camp when the ZL1 won comparos against the GT500 because of a more well-rounded ride and handling, and being better-suited as a DD.

Now the Mustang GT PP is chosen by these folks, over the Camaro, for those reasons and suddenly that makes a LOT of sense. In the immortal words of an ol' pal of mine, REALLY?!

BTW, they continually refer to the Camaro's excessive width. Isn't the Hellcat wider? And yet not a peep about its width.

They are obviously awaiting the Camaro's Gen-6 arrival. I suspect their "story" will change.

SpeedIsLife · 11-14-2014, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

Things that make you say, "hmmmm".

I recall the gales of laughter and derisive rhetoric from the Ford camp when the ZL1 won comparos against the GT500 because of a more well-rounded ride and handling, and being better-suited as a DD.

Now the Mustang GT PP is chosen by these folks, over the Camaro, for those reasons and suddenly that makes a LOT of sense. In the immortal words of an ol' pal of mine, REALLY?!

BTW, they continually refer to the Camaro's excessive width. Isn't the Hellcat wider? And yet not a peep about its width.

They are obviously awaiting the Camaro's Gen-6 arrival. I suspect their "story" will change.

Width-

Challenger Hellcat: 75.7"
Mustang GT:74.9"
Camaro Z/28:76.9"

SEVEN-OH JOE · 11-14-2014, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Width-

Challenger Hellcat: 75.7"
Mustang GT:74.9" (2014 = 73.9")
Camaro Z/28:76.9"

Once again, thanks for your objective, accurate input.

W/O Mirrors:

2015 Challenger = 75.7"
2015 Mustang = 75.4"
2015 Camaro = 75.5"

The drivers must have been estrogen-enrichened. They're the only likely ones to be concerned about an extra 1/10 or two vs. actual performance stats.

SpeedIsLife · 11-14-2014, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

Once again, thanks for your objective, accurate input.

W/O Mirrors:

2015 Challenger = 75.7"
2015 Mustang = 75.4"
2015 Camaro = 75.5"

The drivers must have been estrogen-enrichened. They're the only likely ones to be concerned about an extra 1/10 or two vs. actual performance stats.

Sorry, got my numbers wrong. I know, unforgivable sin.

11-11-2014, 05:49 PM	#1
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PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 57,205	I don't understand, the article at the top says 2015, and the thing on the bottom says 2014 __________________

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11-11-2014, 07:23 PM	#3
Front Runner Drives: 2016 Nightfall Gray Metallic SS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: NC Posts: 1,011	Not shocked.....

11-11-2014, 07:54 PM	#5
Smhenry Drives: 2014 4runner Trail Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: NWA Posts: 2	Crickets...

11-12-2014, 07:08 AM	#6
stoopid Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: anyplace, USA Posts: 1,177	Porsche? I didn't know they were still making cars.

11-12-2014, 11:57 AM	#7
shaffe Drives: 21 Bronco Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Carol Stream Posts: 6,043	R&T really had quite the collection of cars there. Just quickly glanced at the finalists, thought for sure the Z/28 was going to be in the final 3. I will have to read the full article at lunch today.

11-12-2014, 12:16 PM	#9
serpent Drives: 2006 GTO Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Santa Clara Ca Posts: 112	Were you guys really surprised? The Z28 is a bad ass ride and (imo) expensive for a track car camaro @ 75k, but this list of competing 100k+ cars, I didnt even think the z28 would come in 5th. VIR is a track that really fooled me when it came to lap times. I can't wait to see next years lightning lap with the TA 2.0, 991 GT3, 458 Speciale, C7Z, hell I hope the GT350 is in that list too!!

11-12-2014, 12:30 PM	#10
shaffe Drives: 21 Bronco Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Carol Stream Posts: 6,043	Just got done reading the whole article. It's interesting to see different opinions, MT drivers car Z/28 walked away with the title, R&T it didn't make the top 3. What I liked about this article is it seems like they gave every car a fair shake. I wonder how the outcome would have been had they had a pro driver like Randy Probst give his input if it would have changed anything.

11-14-2014, 02:45 PM	#11
SEVEN-OH JOE Account Suspended Drives: some to distraction Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 627	Things that make you say, "hmmmm". I recall the gales of laughter and derisive rhetoric from the Ford camp when the ZL1 won comparos against the GT500 because of a more well-rounded ride and handling, and being better-suited as a DD. Now the Mustang GT PP is chosen by these folks, over the Camaro, for those reasons and suddenly that makes a LOT of sense. In the immortal words of an ol' pal of mine, REALLY?! BTW, they continually refer to the Camaro's excessive width. Isn't the Hellcat wider? And yet not a peep about its width. They are obviously awaiting the Camaro's Gen-6 arrival. I suspect their "story" will change.