2015 Challenger Hellcat 707 HP

[Front Runner]

Originally Posted by cal45

I think we tend to forget here that not everyone on a car forum tracks their car and needs a vehicle cut for the track as the Z/28 is. The comparisons start and folks state that a car can't take sharp turns at 80 mph......well, since my car is driven on public roads, I won't be attempting to take turns at unsafe speeds and I hope all of the "track drivers" save it for the track and not endanger me or my family on trying their "skills" on public roads. I like the fact that the car can be a daily driver and has the acceleration when needed on straight roadways. I guess I can show my age here when I say this takes me back to the late 60's and early '70's when the American Muscle car was in it's glory. It's great to see the Big 3 compete again in the HP Wars.

Also keep in mind, Dodge did not make the Hellcat to be a track car as the Z/28, their goal was simply to build an American Muscle car....and to that they did.

Not in certain parts of this forum, bud.

Most EVERYONE here tracks their cars and possess the skill level of professional race car drivers that can actually push our cars to the max level at all times. That's why the ONLY thing that matters about our cars is what Randy Pobst, Motor Trend, Car & Driver, Autoblog, Road & Track, etc. says about them.

To hell with the fact that you may simply like the car for your own reasons.......

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Originally Posted by Front Runner

Not in certain parts of this forum, bud.

Most EVERYONE here tracks their cars and possess the skill level of professional race car drivers that can actually push our cars to the max level at all times. That's why the ONLY thing that matters about our cars is what Randy Pobst, Motor Trend, Car & Driver, Autoblog, Road & Track, etc. says about them.

To hell with the fact that you may simply like the car for your own reasons.......

Perhaps your descriptive line below your "handle" has been exceeded.

[txferrari]

I have a headache reading you girls fight and argue about a car. Who cares. I'm personally not a Dodge fan, but the care looks legit. I won't be buying one as it's still a Dodge. I bought my $60k car in the Zl1 and am happy with it. These Hellcat fans are funny tho, seems they are taking any criticism personally. Nothing makes a car's rep go south as much as their owners make them. It's why I personally can't carry on a convo about cars to Vette owners. They are constantly reminding me they are king of the jungle, when in reality, on the street, GTR's are. They hate that word. Buy what you want and be happy with it.

[Front Runner]

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

Perhaps your descriptive line below your "handle" has been exceeded.

[MEDISIN]

Originally Posted by Alain

Let me tell you something that ANYBODY with AN OPEN mind realizes. the style and interior on the Hellcat is top notch. What can you possibly not like in the interior of that car?? I saw the new interior in person at the last NYC auto show. Compares to ANYTHIG short of a 100k+ Mercedez Benz.

We will have to agree to disagree. The redesigned interior is nice for a Dodge but in the $60,000+ range there are significantly nicer places to be than inside a Challenger. It is far and away nicer than the 5th gen Camaro interior, on that we can agree.

Originally Posted by Alain

Balance? Not sure what you mean.

Weight distribution and how the suspension behaves under load. Shouldn't fight the driver. Should ideally feel neutral to the driver.

Originally Posted by Alain

I'm buying a 700+ hp car to make noise and have it push my ass/back into the seat when I stand on the GO pedal.

Plenty of cars make noise with less than 700hp. You're buying a 700hp factory car...to be "pushed back in your seat"?? That's the reason?

Originally Posted by Alain

Im not really worried about posers thinking I'm cool cause I'm driving a luxury brand named car that I spent 60K+ which happens to ONLY have around 500 horses so it would give me the right away to say it might put up a fight against a muscle car.

Hilarious coming from someone spending $60,000...on a Dodge. Only 556hp...which is more than anything Dodge has offered not named Viper. Until now there have only been two other muscle cars that can compete with the V and they are still not direct competitors. Nice for Dodge to finally show up to the party, 6 years later.

Originally Posted by Alain

And reliability? Let the car hit the streets for a few months than we can comment on that.

Please don't use "Dodge" and "reliability" in the same sentence unless it also includes "failure", "abysmal" or "catastrophic".

Originally Posted by Alain

Track performance ? You have fun taking turns and doing road courses.! I'll have my fun drag racing and sliding around every corner turn in my town lolol.

When I was 16, 17, I loved the drag strip too. I grew out of it and looked for something more challenging. If drag-racing is all you got...enjoy.

Originally Posted by Alain

And Wtf is engagement ??!!

If you've ever driven an engaging car you wouldn't have to ask. 1LE, Boss, E39 M5, E46 M3, 911, Cayman, C7, GTI, BRZ, 1st or 2nd gen V, G8, SS sedan, etc.

Originally Posted by cal45

I think we tend to forget here that not everyone on a car forum tracks their car and needs a vehicle cut for the track as the Z/28 is. The comparisons start and folks state that a car can't take sharp turns at 80 mph......well, since my car is driven on public roads, I won't be attempting to take turns at unsafe speeds and I hope all of the "track drivers" save it for the track and not endanger me or my family on trying their "skills" on public roads. I like the fact that the car can be a daily driver and has the acceleration when needed on straight roadways. I guess I can show my age here when I say this takes me back to the late 60's and early '70's when the American Muscle car was in it's glory. It's great to see the Big 3 compete again in the HP Wars.

Also keep in mind, Dodge did not make the Hellcat to be a track car as the Z/28, their goal was simply to build an American Muscle car....and to that they did.

I never commented or alluded to a Z/28 - different animal. My V certainly isn't set up for dedicated track use. It's a daily driver I can drive on track days, at the drag strip, enjoy back country and mountain roads while accommodating my family, baggage etc. My expectations for American pony/performance/luxury cars has evolved as cars like the C6 Corvette, Viper, CTS-V1, G8 GXP, 5th gen Camaro, Cobra R, Boss, CTS-V2 have produced world class handling to complement their straight-line performance, all at an affordable price. Would have been nice if Dodge put some effort into the chassis, that's all I'm saying.

[cal45]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

I never commented or alluded to a Z/28 - different animal. My V certainly isn't set up for dedicated track use. It's a daily driver I can drive on track days, at the drag strip, enjoy back country and mountain roads while accommodating my family, baggage etc. My expectations for American pony/performance/luxury cars has evolved as cars like the C6 Corvette, Viper, CTS-V1, G8 GXP, 5th gen Camaro, Cobra R, Boss, CTS-V2 have produced world class handling to complement their straight-line performance, all at an affordable price. Would have been nice if Dodge put some effort into the chassis, that's all I'm saying.

Well, hopefully one day you get to drive the Hellcat Challenger, as they did make some improvements, and get the opportunity to see for yourself as opposed to just commenting on articles. Not trying to convert you but to have such a one sided opinion about how this car drives from reading articles and not actually having any first hand experience is presumptuous but I am in the same boat until I actually get to drive mine ....hopefully by this Summer, and if you ever make it to Orlando, you can try it out....just not on a track. Hey, Jay Leno liked it.

[Todd in Vancouver]

Recently I was in a new rental Charger and I've got to say I was pleasantly surprised how nice it was. For an everyday getting around set of wheels it did the job, was roomy, easy to get in and out of and the new interior was well appointed. Frankly I don't really drive our second vehicle around a lot so I'd certainly consider a HellCat Charger for running around and just give my wife the lower HP key and not tell her it's really a monster in nice clothing. Time will tell how these cars shake out in the long run but the industry in general has shown they can make a very civil high HP car that lasts. I can certainly see myself looking at a slightly used HellCat Charger in a couple years as my grocery getter.

[Alain]

I wonder if there is any truth to what I was told by one of the stealers. Referring to the Hellcat engine being used by SRT on the jeep?

[derklug]

There are rumors of Hellcat....everything. Put it in a Dart and I'll be a buyer.

[rocket403]

Top Gear with the Hellcat

[lewylew]

Many people have taken delivery recently.

[rocket403]

I have been following some posts on that, it is great that they are now getting to the people that had the 1st orders. I guess we will need to wait until the spring for a owner driving review as well as track time with them.

[Alain]

I thought that video was gonna be a review!

I wish they would have let is hear the car instead of that stupid song they played over it.

[rocket403]

Sure will be in the near future, but they have a write up on the car here.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/cha...ive-2014-11-18

Here is Autoweek review

http://autoweek.com/article/car-revi...review-notes-0

They were able to get a 12.1 out of the 6sp