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Old 08-14-2009, 02:37 AM   #57
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I think it would be pretty awesome if the base vette had a TT DI 3.6. but i'm like 1 in a few hundred thousand that think that.
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Old 08-14-2009, 02:43 AM   #58
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I'm not a fan of the twin gauge pods. The current C6's IP is a big draw for me because I prefer to see all gauges in one single field of-view, easy to transition from one to another. Separate pods, especially if they're deep, hurt that. Won't complain about those seats, but apparently I'm the only skinny guy who likes going around corners in the whole world who would consider buying a GM performance vehicle, so I'm not counting on it.
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:18 AM   #59
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I'm glad mid-engine layout is out. The front-engine, rear transaxle layout certainly hasn't made the Corvette's performance second rate. The cost/benefit ratio for that move just doesn't make sense.

The DCT, while meaningless to people wanting a true manual, would probably be a draw for a lot of people. They see them popping up in more and more performance cars, and eventually it will come to be expected. On the plus side, they could win over a lot of people disaffected by the near-extinction of manual transmissions in other performance cars. It will be interesting to see how this works out for sales.

And as far as the engine, I'd still much rather see a high-tech, DI, perhaps turbocharged V8 than a high-tech, DI, turbocharged V6. I fully understand that 6 cylinders are perfectly fine in a sports car application, especially one as light as the Corvette, but the Corvette is iconic and much of that has to do with the V8. You just don't change the recipe on these kinds of things.

Bottom line, an even lighter C7, with similar power and perhaps one of the last manual transmissions would make consider ditching the plan to buy a used Camaro or C6 as my weekend car.
Corvette doesnt need mid engine, the costs outweigh the benefits ... there your correct. I'd say the corvette is the only serious sports car in the world that can pull off NOT having a DCT by 2013. Think about it.. what company doesnt have DCT on their high end sports cars? Bmw, merc, porsche, masserati, ferrari, lambo, aston, nissan, even Ford has a DCT in the works. Yet... the Corvette doesnt seem to need it. The Corvette, Lotus and some of the high end 911's are the only production sports cars that you cant even GET an auto box in. Its part of the whole personality of the car...

As for the TTV6... Id say that we've seen through BMW and Nissan that TTV6's can make well over 400hp... remember the GTR has a TTV6 that is UNDERRATED at 480hp. If it means better fuel economy and a better likelyhood that the corvette will stick around for future generations, who cares if its got a badass V6 as long as the Z06 and ZR1 keep their 8's?

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I'm not a fan of the twin gauge pods. The current C6's IP is a big draw for me because I prefer to see all gauges in one single field of-view, easy to transition from one to another. Separate pods, especially if they're deep, hurt that. Won't complain about those seats, but apparently I'm the only skinny guy who likes going around corners in the whole world who would consider buying a GM performance vehicle, so I'm not counting on it.
lol I know what you mean... the seat's expand with the McCdonalds franchise!
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Old 08-14-2009, 01:08 PM   #60
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As for the TTV6... Id say that we've seen through BMW and Nissan that TTV6's can make well over 400hp... remember the GTR has a TTV6 that is UNDERRATED at 480hp. If it means better fuel economy and a better likelyhood that the corvette will stick around for future generations, who cares if its got a badass V6 as long as the Z06 and ZR1 keep their 8's?
As I said before, I have no doubts in my mind about the worthiness of 6 cylinders in a super high performance car. However, the Corvette is already more fuel efficient than those cars that you mentioned with its V8, and that's before the supposed weight reductions in the C7. So I don't see switching to a TT V6 for fuel economy as a pressing need. Is squeezing a few mpgs out of your already fuel-efficient sports car that makes up 2% of your sales really worth throwing out nearly 60 years of heritage for?
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Old 08-14-2009, 01:15 PM   #61
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Not to be pedantic, but wasn't the original Vette an I6?
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Old 08-14-2009, 01:28 PM   #62
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I'm still loving that car. There are little things that irk me to be sure, but that car is hot overall.

So why exactly is a split window a no-no these days?
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Old 08-14-2009, 02:06 PM   #63
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I agree they need to market it to younger buyers it breaks my heart to see women in there 50's and old guys only driving Corvettes... Maybe the Stingray's sexy design will bring back a larger demographic to the vette right now I think it's 50 to 65 year olds... Some may think I'm getting up there in age, I'm 46 and still not old enough to drive a C6.
It's not the demographic preventing people from buying it, it's the price. Who do you expect to drive a car that is expensive enough that the average person in their 20-30's can't afford it.
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Old 08-14-2009, 02:13 PM   #64
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It's not the demographic preventing people from buying it, it's the price. Who do you expect to drive a car that is expensive enough that the average person in their 20-30's can't afford it.
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I agree they need to market it to younger buyers it breaks my heart to see women in there 50's and old guys only driving Corvettes... Maybe the Stingray's sexy design will bring back a larger demographic to the vette right now I think it's 50 to 65 year olds... Some may think I'm getting up there in age, I'm 46 and still not old enough to drive a C6.
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umm...Im 35 and got 3 Vettes if you slide over to the vette forums you will see tons of guys in the 28 to 44 range owning, driving, racing and modding the heck out of their c6's and Z06's
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The "Transformers" concept version makes me want to . Let us hope the actual C7 looks more like the cars in this image.
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The "Transformers" concept version makes me want to . Let us hope the actual C7 looks more like the cars in this image.
Please let it be like the red one.
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Old 08-16-2009, 12:48 PM   #68
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Corvette doesnt need mid engine, the costs outweigh the benefits ... there your correct. I'd say the corvette is the only serious sports car in the world that can pull off NOT having a DCT by 2013. Think about it.. what company doesnt have DCT on their high end sports cars? Bmw, merc, porsche, masserati, ferrari, lambo, aston, nissan, even Ford has a DCT in the works. Yet... the Corvette doesnt seem to need it. The Corvette, Lotus and some of the high end 911's are the only production sports cars that you cant even GET an auto box in. Its part of the whole personality of the car...

As for the TTV6... Id say that we've seen through BMW and Nissan that TTV6's can make well over 400hp... remember the GTR has a TTV6 that is UNDERRATED at 480hp. If it means better fuel economy and a better likelyhood that the corvette will stick around for future generations, who cares if its got a badass V6 as long as the Z06 and ZR1 keep their 8's?



lol I know what you mean... the seat's expand with the McCdonalds franchise!
The Corvette could still be mid-engined ... just not the way that most people think of it. A mid engined car is one that has its engine between the two axles. Nothing says it can't be between the front axle and the driver. And based on the C6 I'd say they only have a couple inches to go until they reach that.

DCT's, the Viper doesn't have one. Also, none of those other automakers use OHV engines either, but the Viper and Corvette still have them.

Turbos, while the GTR does have a turbo it doesn't get great mileage (16/21). By comparison, the Z06 gets 15/24. Turbos only help fuel economy when they are set up for lower boost levels. 10+ psi will not help matters much, and thats whats needed to get a V6 up past 450 hp.
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The Corvette could still be mid-engined ... just not the way that most people think of it. A mid engined car is one that has its engine between the two axles. Nothing says it can't be between the front axle and the driver. And based on the C6 I'd say they only have a couple inches to go until they reach that.
I'm not sure, but I think it's already considered Front-Mid engined...really not sure, though.
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The "Transformers" concept version makes me want to . Let us hope the actual C7 looks more like the cars in this image.
I barely see a difference between that and a C6. Time to change it up a little.
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