PWA "The Lounge"

[PQ]

Originally Posted by 68 Z/28

ok will down load it later thats with Brad Pitt right


Hiya pq , you still not smoking

[68 Z/28]

Originally Posted by irpq11

[68 Z/28]

Bye all bbl , y'all behave now

[drivingincamaro]

Originally Posted by 68 Z/28

Bye all bbl , y'all behave now

bye

[ShnOmac]

Howyd whores!


Where did Junkies ZR-1 thread go???

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by WildClay

I am not too worried about the wiring, it is that I would want them to fit as if factory installed, however my real preference would be to just pay through the nose and have an authorized GM dealer garage do the work so I kept my warranty intact and know I could get any problems in the future with them addressed.

I am looking at some of the after market spoilers, I like the dove tail one more that the low profile RS package one. Anyone had any experience with after market parts like that? I would assume it would not void the warrenty except for the paint where it is mounted.

I have never added anything but a radar detector and GPS to a car in the last 20 years or so. My 68' Camaro that I had in 74' had almost more non-GM parts than GM parts by the time the prior owner and I was finished with it...

Back to the wiring, it would seem odd to put in two different wiring harnesses for such a subtle change, not that I am questioning you in the least, but in my Grand Prix GTP, when I wired in my GPS I noticed under the dash it had all the "ends" on the harness that covered options I did not get, and even in the trunk it had the ends for the CD Changer you could optionally get, which I did not. One-off design generally ends up costing more than in saves, at least in my experience as a non-automotive electronic design engineer.

the lights themselves are in a same sized housing so they would physically swap over no problem, but the wiring issue comes into play where the non-RS cars dont have the light knob to turn on the halos and such and you would have to rig up your own setup. as for getting a dealer to install them, good luck, you are better off swapping your car with an RS or paying out the ass to get a professional looking switch setup for the RS headlights.

Originally Posted by swansor

Hey all. Yes Im a newb and probably should keep my pie hole shut but I actually find this thread refreshing and a lot of good peeps. The randomness is entertaining. I visit the other threads for the serious discussions and those are great too. Think theres a need for both. But again im the newb and guess its not my thread o have an opinion on. Tis a shame...

you are welcome to an opinion, but to be considered a true post whore, you have to read the original PWA thread completely, this thread completely, the Shunt saga thread, the Kidnapping thread and the Greg Norris threads. lol

Originally Posted by 68 Z/28

Thank You to all my friends But I am just going to sit here and shut up for now and await a reply to what I should do form those of a higher power !

stay here... who told you to shut up?

Originally Posted by 68 Z/28

But Spike I am not waiting for your answer I have friends here and am going to stay and enjoy them no matter what , so just ban me if you don't like me , yes you are smarter and more knowlegeable then most and have been here longer then most but so what , this tread is meant to be an escape and to me it has been and have met some damn nice people in the process so I am going to continue in my way and damn whoever don't like it , OK RANT DONE



Hiya Whore Friends

whoa whoa whoa...... why would I ban you? where did the not liking you come from? where did the hostility come from? what did I miss? :(

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

68,

that's probably a good place to leave this conversation...

No one wants you to leave. This thread has it's place as do the more technical.

My hope is this is a bit of a misunderstanding. I don't think Spike meant anyone in particular when he said Newbs.

So, lets not get upset for nothing. please.

noobs, newbs, nooblets..... I miss RT21.

Originally Posted by 68 Z/28

Sorry Gta , I prob. took it wrong but either way I am staying to coverse with my friends and am always open to be anyones friend

I'm still kinda lost on whats going on? which post (or posts) are we talking about/looking at? I didnt mean any disrespect. if its about the serious discussion vs the randomness, I just wanted to bring back some of the other stuff we used to do around here. not trying to say that its anyones fault that we dont have the "tech talks" we used to. we have a lot of members that have left over the last year or two and a lot of new members that have joined our ranks. I have no hard feelings towards anyone. I know I can be brash about things sometimes, but I dont single people out. I treat everyone the same way, noobs, veterans, whores, mods, admin, Shunt, Fbod, everyone.

Originally Posted by shnomac77

I think when you said you would wait for a answer... He said Rog... thinking you where talking about the random questions that we where thinking of asking.... wires deff crossed i think...

he posted the youtube video (which I didnt have time to watch last night or this morning) and then posted that he'd wait for my reply. I thought it had something to do with the video.

Originally Posted by 68 Z/28

Have had unwelcome feelings from him in the past as well wasn't just this time , I just decided to say something this time issues about quality and quantity . But am done with it now

everything has its place here. I have no problem with the randomness, but I also enjoy discussions about physics, fluid dynamics, 6 cycle engines, black holes, airplanes on treadmills (actually, thats an old one), and just about anything else there is. not knocking the randomness at all. or the quantity of the randomness. thats what this thread and the previous one was made for. its almost like a chatroom if one can keep up to speed with it. I just like to learn about new things and discuss things and pass on what knowledge I have on to others and take what knowledge from them I can so that I may be able to help someone else down the road. I know we debated the quality/quantity issue a while back, I wasnt trying for it to be a competition, just trying to offer another view on it. most topics, I can go either way on and will often pick the less liked side to argue for.


dont leave if you feel im singling you out or criticizing you about something. pm me about it and find out. I honestly had no idea that this was brooding. and as soon as I opened the PW thread to my last post in here last night, I multiquoted these posts and skipped to the last page (sorry everyone else for not reading and replying, but this takes precedence). shoot me a pm or point me to the posts that are in question so we can clear this issue up.

[drivingincamaro]

Originally Posted by shnomac77

Howyd whores!


Where did Junkies ZR-1 thread go???

[ShnOmac]

Hmmmm odd

[WildClay]

Originally Posted by respect is earned

sorry i was eating a quick breakfast but.......
MY CAR IS HERE

Looking forward to the day I post that message, major congrats

[ljustin293]

Originally Posted by WildClay

You might be sorry you asked...

My Camaro story was more like a nightmare until last week when I finally raised enough hell to get things moving.

I would say it was a mess of my own doing but it was more of a case of who would ever think ordering a car could be such a mess.

My saga began Apr 11, 2009 when I decided before GM went bankrupt to get a new car, I have been in GM's for 20-25 years now, but since they killed the 2 door Grand Prix and the supercharged V6 version that I have now there was no GM car I like for the first time in all this time. Then last year I saw the Camaro and said, ok there is my next car.

So I wait until they are in production and actually moved sooner than I planned but thought I would throw some bucks GM's way since I was going to get a GM anyway and went dealer shopping after building a Camaro on the GM web site. So I had it all dialed in to just what I wanted, I printed that all out and started calling dealers.

My first clue that this might turn out poorly was when the first dealer I called said he would only take orders for the 2SS and wanted 3K above MSRP. However I still had no clue as to how this mess of a system worked.

So I find a dealer willing to take a 2LT order, buy then I knew about allocations only at the very high level, meaning, dealers I had spoken with had mentioned that had no allocation so they could not take an acutal order but would put me on a waiting list, or like the first one, who lied and said he only had allocations for the one model.

The dealer I find seemed great, I asked if they had allocations that would let them order a 2LT not knowing that the other dealer had lied, the "good" dealer said sure, come on down, so I did.

We made the deal in less than an hour, they took my printout and came up with a sales contract, offered me a really good price on my trade in and said the wait was 6-8 weeks, but that most of their orders were delivered in 6 weeks since they were such a large dealer, big lie.

At 6 weeks I call to see if I fell on the lucky side, which still not clue about this Workbench order number deal, the real meaning of allocations, and no concept of the "process". The dealer tells me it is looking good should be any day now, they will call when it comes in.

I wait another 2 weeks to ask how it is looking, this time I got a dance, well, you know since they bankruptcy, things all slowed down, but they should be ok in a week or two so my car will be another 2 weeks tops. Of course that did not happen and now I am at 10 weeks.

Then it started getting real hard to get either my salesman or the sales manager any more so I call GM Customer Care line, talk about a waste of a good dime... They were totally useless and it was about this time I knew Houston had a problem.

A couple of weeks ago my dealer made a mistake, two actually, one was thinking that one of the cars that they had an order number for was mine and the second one was telling me about this site so I could track my order.

I gave the number to The Viz and to my surpise he comes back with a status in like 15 minutes, in that time I cruised the site a bit and then knew I was in trouble. But when my status came back as 3800, with a VIN, I went to the online spreadsheed in the those with a VIN thread and looked up my car, it was not my car, in fact not even one of the details matched my order.

So I ask The Viz if perhaps he had given me the worng VIN, nope, he cut and pasted the info from whatever his source is so it was clear it was not a typo.

I call the dealer who actually takes my call thinking everything is rosey now and tell him that the order number he gave me lead to the wrong car. He says oh he must of read the wrong line off the computer, he would call me back with the right number, a call of course I never got.

All I could get was voice mail when I tried ot reach him for days, and when I went in person wouldn't you know but the "GM" computers were down...

Finally I started really raising hell, calling and emailing Customer Care without mercy, same to the dealer, and snail mail to every address in GM I could find.

I am not sure if this helped or hurt but after my blitz campaign, last week things broke open and Customer Care called me with the right number, they gave me the wrong status but at least had the right number.

I gave that to The Viz, who again responded in no time with a status of 3000 and a TPW of 9/7/09. I asked him if he would look up the details since it did not have a VIN so I could see if it was the right car this time, he did, great guy, and it was the right car.

So now I am good, I have never really been in a hurry to get it my Grand Prix is great, all I wanted was a striaght answer, even if the dealer had told me on the second or third calls that things happened and it was going to take a few months, I would have been fine, I even told him, just tell me what is really going on, but I guess if you are a dishonest person at heart you don't trust anyone else, so he probably figured if he told me the truth I would cancel, I wouldn't have and didn't even with all his BS.

In any event that is my Camaro story, I figure I am at least two months from the car if all goes well, and longer if not, but at least I know I am in the real pipeline and past the first codes, so I am good.

I came ot this thread as it was one of the few that did not seem to have clear posting rules to post a test message after I uploaded my car icon and put in a footer for my messages to see if it worked. My first message here was "Test".

Then the fun started, met a lot of great folks in this thread that has taken a lot of the sting out of the initial experience and I am a happy camper again, not bad for a ho thread

at least everything is in order now.

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

wow, someone's never seen fight club........ 68....................

I haven't

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

dont leave if you feel im singling you out or criticizing you about something. pm me about it and find out. I honestly had no idea that this was brooding. and as soon as I opened the PW thread to my last post in here last night, I multiquoted these posts and skipped to the last page (sorry everyone else for not reading and replying, but this takes precedence). shoot me a pm or point me to the posts that are in question so we can clear this issue up.

i think your explaination covers it all,, you're good, we are all good



what a day..I like being the boss

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by ljustin293

I like being the boss

Its a blessing and a curse I say!

[Number 3]

Off to cruise Woodward Avenue at the Annual Dream Cruise. Maybe some pics later, depending on what we see.

[ljustin293]

Originally Posted by shnomac77

Its a blessing and a curse I say!

yeah I bet

Originally Posted by Number 3

Off to cruise Woodward Avenue at the Annual Dream Cruise. Maybe some pics later, depending on what we see.

have fun!

[Tactical Z]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Yay for Terrain pricing on GMFamilyFirst!

Lucky.

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

I just remembered. It's Saturday. I have the day off. Which means I have nothing to do today.

You can tell Tactical Z how much the Terrain will cost.

Originally Posted by respect is earned

dont worry ill be sure to get some pics in between everything thank you 68, and fen, and justin, and RJT, and Chelline and number three and junkie, and TJ, and Vash, and Beandip2811, and GMtothecore, and DC, and TAC, and everyone else ok, i gotta go be back later

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

That's awesome!!!!!

Just dont forget about us

Like RT21 did.

Originally Posted by Number 3

Off to cruise Woodward Avenue at the Annual Dream Cruise. Maybe some pics later, depending on what we see.

Bye Number 3