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Old 08-18-2014, 06:26 PM   #1989
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I'm signed up for Road America's next HPD in October.

It would be interesting to know what percentage have never drag raced at a strip either
After seeing minivans at the strip I'll go ahead and say about 50 percent.
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Old 08-18-2014, 06:37 PM   #1990
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75 percent of you have never been on a track. Stop already with track shit.
I was thinking the same thing. You would think there are a bunch of professional road racers on this forum, which is far from the truth.


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Good luck with that...its their only saving grace. Meanwhile in the real world, ZL1s are getting their asses handed to them at the strip and street by GT500s and Challengers. But wgaf, just bust out the orange cones and prove to them who is king of the course

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Old 08-18-2014, 06:47 PM   #1991
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I'm signed up for Road America's next HPD in October.

It would be interesting to know what percentage have never drag raced at a strip either
Count me in there...3 BIR HPDE events and no 1/4 mile passes.
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I will say I like drag racing but I have a new found appreciation for someone who whips around a 30k or more car with a bigger chance of demolishing it.
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After seeing minivans at the strip I'll go ahead and say about 50 percent.
ZL1 manual transmission production was 66% 2012 and 52.3% 2013. 2014 numbers aren't out yet. Fair to say most owners are not max ET oriented.
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I will say I like drag racing but I have a new found appreciation for someone who whips around a 30k or more car with a bigger chance of demolishing it.
Especially if you're driving a Viper or a Hellcat!

Anyone know of a good 1/4 mile drag game for the Playstation?
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Especially if you're driving a Viper or a Hellcat!

Anyone know of a good 1/4 mile drag game for the Playstation?
They do make practice trees. I have one. I'm too old for video games. I would sooner run the 1/4 for real. It would be impossible to duplicate what your senses feel when drag racing. I assume that is probably why they don't make dragracing games. Plus they wouldn't sell as many games because there aren't as many mopars fans, and too many people would get mad loosing to them all the time.
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In case you needed just ONE more reason to rush right down to the Dodge dealer, here it is!

Oh wait...

5 Car Brands That Customers Don't Buy Twice

#2. Chrysler: 22.72% repeat customers
Like Dodge, Chrysler sales are strong, but it has even fewer repeat buyers. Our hunch is that both Chrysler and Dodge are experiencing something of a brand crisis. To many shoppers, they're just too similar to feel distinct, leading to fuzzy identities for both. (Remember: Chrysler was the only U.S. automaker to add brands to its family during the Great Recession. Ford and GM both scaled back, letting their strongest brands shine.) Also, there's not a great deal of variety in the Chrysler lineup. Together, that vague brand identity and lack of product variation make it much easier for competitors to lure Chrysler owners into their showrooms.

I'll bet the Hellcats move them right up to 23%!
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In case you needed just ONE more reason to rush right down to the Dodge dealer, here it is!

Oh wait...

5 Car Brands That Customers Don't Buy Twice

#2. Chrysler: 22.72% repeat customers
Like Dodge, Chrysler sales are strong, but it has even fewer repeat buyers. Our hunch is that both Chrysler and Dodge are experiencing something of a brand crisis. To many shoppers, they're just too similar to feel distinct, leading to fuzzy identities for both. (Remember: Chrysler was the only U.S. automaker to add brands to its family during the Great Recession. Ford and GM both scaled back, letting their strongest brands shine.) Also, there's not a great deal of variety in the Chrysler lineup. Together, that vague brand identity and lack of product variation make it much easier for competitors to lure Chrysler owners into their showrooms.

I'll be the Hellcats move them right up to 23%!
Who's #1, 3, 4 & 5 on this list?
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In case you needed just ONE more reason to rush right down to the Dodge dealer, here it is!

Oh wait...

5 Car Brands That Customers Don't Buy Twice

#2. Chrysler: 22.72% repeat customers
Like Dodge, Chrysler sales are strong, but it has even fewer repeat buyers. Our hunch is that both Chrysler and Dodge are experiencing something of a brand crisis. To many shoppers, they're just too similar to feel distinct, leading to fuzzy identities for both. (Remember: Chrysler was the only U.S. automaker to add brands to its family during the Great Recession. Ford and GM both scaled back, letting their strongest brands shine.) Also, there's not a great deal of variety in the Chrysler lineup. Together, that vague brand identity and lack of product variation make it much easier for competitors to lure Chrysler owners into their showrooms.

I'll be the Hellcats move them right up to 23%!
That's because they last so long that they don't need to keep buying new ones.

I love posts like yours. It just keeps proving my point.
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Old 08-18-2014, 07:48 PM   #1999
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Who's #1, 3, 4 & 5 on this list?
Glad you asked:

5. Scion: 25.79% repeat customers
Scion is facing a number of serious problems. When the brand debuted a decade ago, America had begun to "rediscover" small cars, which hadn't consistently performed well since the oil crisis of the 1970s. Scion did fine for a while, drawing in Millennials who liked the brand's personality, and even older drivers who appreciated some models' fuel economy (especially during the Great Recession). But apart from the FR-S, Scion hasn't offered anything new or noteworthy for some time. Its vehicles also perform poorly in initial quality and below average in dependability. Meanwhile, its parent, Toyota, continues to inspire huge volumes of repeat business and to offer some very interesting new rides (e.g. the recent expansion of the Prius family), which could be putting a dent in Scion's sales.
#4. Jaguar: 25.45% repeat customers
Unlike Scion, Jaguar doesn't have a problem with vehicle quality. In fact, it ranked second on J.D. Power's most recent Initial Quality Study, and it squeaked in just above the industry average in terms of long-term reliability. Rather, Jaguar's problem is its price point, which is higher than its competitors. Add that to the hugely competitive luxury market, and you can see why other high-end automakers are turning the heads of Jaguar owners.
#3. Dodge: 22.88% repeat customers
Dodge is selling well these days, but fewer than one-quarter of buyers are repeat customers. That could be because of the brand's shortcomings on the quality front: Dodge performs below average in initial quality and in the next-to-last spot in terms of dependability, besting bottom-runger MINI by just four points. (This rating EXCLUDES RAM PICKUPS, which rate higher/better)
#2. Chrysler: 22.72% repeat customers
Like Dodge, Chrysler sales are strong, but it has even fewer repeat buyers. Our hunch is that both Chrysler and Dodge are experiencing something of a brand crisis. To many shoppers, they're just too similar to feel distinct, leading to fuzzy identities for both. (Remember: Chrysler was the only U.S. automaker to add brands to its family during the Great Recession. Ford and GM both scaled back, letting their strongest brands shine.) Also, there's not a great deal of variety in the Chrysler lineup. Together, that vague brand identity and lack of product variation make it much easier for competitors to lure Chrysler owners into their showrooms.
#1. Mitsubishi: 21.77% repeat customers
Mitsubishi is a small brand: as of July 31, the company had sold just 46,021 vehicles in the U.S., which is fewer than some luxury automakers. That's in part because Mitsubishi doesn't have the same deep pockets as many of its competitors, so it can't advertise its products as widely. It's also due to Mitsubishi's limited product lineup, which tends to include mostly compact cars and crossovers, without much variation. And Mitsubishi's dealer network doesn't help matters, because it's so much smaller and more dispersed than those of other marques. To add insult to injury, Mitsubishi models perform poorly in both initial quality and long-term dependability. It's really no reason that the company has so little brand loyalty.

When you consider how much work Mitsu and Chrysler have done together, it's sort of a CLEAN SWEEP: Win-Place-Show!

Congrats! Or should that be Cudas?!

Source: http://www.thecarconnection.com/news...dont-buy-twice
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Glad you asked:

5. Scion: 25.79% repeat customers
Scion is facing a number of serious problems. When the brand debuted a decade ago, America had begun to "rediscover" small cars, which hadn't consistently performed well since the oil crisis of the 1970s. Scion did fine for a while, drawing in Millennials who liked the brand's personality, and even older drivers who appreciated some models' fuel economy (especially during the Great Recession). But apart from the FR-S, Scion hasn't offered anything new or noteworthy for some time. Its vehicles also perform poorly in initial quality and below average in dependability. Meanwhile, its parent, Toyota, continues to inspire huge volumes of repeat business and to offer some very interesting new rides (e.g. the recent expansion of the Prius family), which could be putting a dent in Scion's sales.
#4. Jaguar: 25.45% repeat customers
Unlike Scion, Jaguar doesn't have a problem with vehicle quality. In fact, it ranked second on J.D. Power's most recent Initial Quality Study, and it squeaked in just above the industry average in terms of long-term reliability. Rather, Jaguar's problem is its price point, which is higher than its competitors. Add that to the hugely competitive luxury market, and you can see why other high-end automakers are turning the heads of Jaguar owners.
#3. Dodge: 22.88% repeat customers
Dodge is selling well these days, but fewer than one-quarter of buyers are repeat customers. That could be because of the brand's shortcomings on the quality front: Dodge performs below average in initial quality and in the next-to-last spot in terms of dependability, besting bottom-runger MINI by just four points. (This rating EXCLUDES RAM PICKUPS, which rate higher/better)
#2. Chrysler: 22.72% repeat customers
Like Dodge, Chrysler sales are strong, but it has even fewer repeat buyers. Our hunch is that both Chrysler and Dodge are experiencing something of a brand crisis. To many shoppers, they're just too similar to feel distinct, leading to fuzzy identities for both. (Remember: Chrysler was the only U.S. automaker to add brands to its family during the Great Recession. Ford and GM both scaled back, letting their strongest brands shine.) Also, there's not a great deal of variety in the Chrysler lineup. Together, that vague brand identity and lack of product variation make it much easier for competitors to lure Chrysler owners into their showrooms.
#1. Mitsubishi: 21.77% repeat customers
Mitsubishi is a small brand: as of July 31, the company had sold just 46,021 vehicles in the U.S., which is fewer than some luxury automakers. That's in part because Mitsubishi doesn't have the same deep pockets as many of its competitors, so it can't advertise its products as widely. It's also due to Mitsubishi's limited product lineup, which tends to include mostly compact cars and crossovers, without much variation. And Mitsubishi's dealer network doesn't help matters, because it's so much smaller and more dispersed than those of other marques. To add insult to injury, Mitsubishi models perform poorly in both initial quality and long-term dependability. It's really no reason that the company has so little brand loyalty.

When you consider how much work Mitsu and Chrysler have done together, it's sort of a CLEAN SWEEP: Win-Place-Show!

Congrats! Or should that be Cudas?!

Source: http://www.thecarconnection.com/news...dont-buy-twice
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They do make practice trees. I have one. I'm too old for video games. I would sooner run the 1/4 for real. It would be impossible to duplicate what your senses feel when drag racing. I assume that is probably why they don't make dragracing games. Plus they wouldn't sell as many games because there aren't as many mopars fans, and too many people would get mad loosing to them all the time.
I went to the strip twice and believe me, I need practice. Drag Racing is fun and definitely not easy
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