2015 Ford F150

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by calebparkin3

Wow I'm surprised the STX and FXs are gone. I'm disappointed as the STX is the model I would go for since I don't need all the comforts in a truck I will put to work.

I too am surprised they dropped the STX and FX2/FX4 but kept both the King Ranch and Platinum. I am not sure I follow the logic.

[HeavyIOM]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

I too am surprised they dropped the STX and FX2/FX4 but kept both the King Ranch and Platinum. I am not sure I follow the logic.

It all comes down to more money in Fords pocket. They can charge more the the king ranch and platinum, and then add the cost in for the off road package. I will be in the market for a new truck soon. The STX was what I was going with, guess that's out. Looks like a Ram express is in my future.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by calebparkin3

It all comes down to more money in Fords pocket. They can charge more the the king ranch and platinum, and then add the cost in for the off road package. I will be in the market for a new truck soon. The STX was what I was going with, guess that's out. Looks like a Ram express is in my future.

That's what I find puzzling. Surely they sell way more work trucks tha Platinums. Enev at lower margins they would probably make more profit. Seems like they are giving up market share to GM and Dodge.

[big hammer]

my word the new f150's are hideous.

[HeavyIOM]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

That's what I find puzzling. Surely they sell way more work trucks tha Platinums. Enev at lower margins they would probably make more profit. Seems like they are giving up market share to GM and Dodge.

I'm with you I see way more STX, shoot even the Fx series seems to out number the high end trucks. I do feel like they will lose buyers in the lower to mid range model truck

[crysalis_01]

So, you guys would shop elsewhere because your truck of choice won't have the vinyl decal you wanted on the bed? The names of some of the trims are all that's gone. Their content is now just packages within broader trims.

[Silverlsinva]

I think ford is taking a Page from GM cause Chevy/GMC doesn't have a lot of trimmed named trucks just W/t LT And LTZ and of course High Country and the Z71 is and has always been a Option on whatever trim of truck you wanted I don't see whats wrong with that.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

So, you guys would shop elsewhere because your truck of choice won't have the vinyl decal you wanted on the bed? The names of some of the trims are all that's gone. Their content is now just packages within broader trims.

That's not what I said. The STX was more than just a decal. It had no bells and whistles (like Chevy's W/T used to be). Lots of people just want a no frills pickup.

Originally Posted by Silverlsinva

I think ford is taking a Page from GM cause Chevy/GMC doesn't have a lot of trimmed named trucks just W/t LT And LTZ and of course High Country and the Z71 is and has always been a Option on whatever trim of truck you wanted I don't see whats wrong with that.

I'm not saying I am reducing the number of trims is a bad thing. I'm saying that getting rid of two of the most popular and affordable trims (STX and FX2/FX4) while keeping both of the most expensive trims (KR and Platinum) doesn't make since to me. Why not keep the STX and either the KR or Platinum? That way you have a low-priced volume leading trim and a high-end trim while still reducing the total number of trims?

[King T]

10 Cars That Weigh More Than the 2015 Ford F-150 SuperCrew
OFFICIAL: 2015 Ford F-150 is a Lightweight

When Ford released an update on the 2015 F-150 earlier this week, the dramatic difference in weight between the 2014 steel-body and 2015 aluminum-body F-150 Lariat SuperCrew caught our attention. According to Ford, the 2015 F-150 Lariat’s aluminum-alloy body helps cut weight by as much as 700 pounds compared to the 2014 model.

Impressed, we asked Ford PR rep Mike Levine for the curb weight of a less-optioned truck, the base model 2015 F-150 SuperCrew. He came back with 4475 pounds -- the preliminary curb weight from Ford of a 2015 F-150 4x2 SuperCrew equipped with the 3.5-liter V-6 engine.

If you just exhaled a low whistle, that is the appropriate response; for a full-size pickup truck with the shortest bed and the largest cab configuration available to weigh in under 4500 pounds is a startling feat of engineering. Consider that a steel-bodied 2014 F-150 4x2 SuperCrew with the same powertrain weighs in at 5128 pounds (per Ford Motor Company), a number in line with the F-150’s current competition:

-2015 Ford F-150 4x2 SuperCrew 3.5L V-6: 4475 pounds
-2014 Ford F-150 4x2 SuperCrew 3.7L V-6: 5128 pounds
-2014 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Crew Cab 2wd 4.3L V-6: 4942 pounds
-2014 Ram 1500 ST 4x2 Crew Cab 3.6L V-6: 4924 pounds
-2014 Toyota Tundra Double Cab 4x2 with 4.0L V-6 (6.5-ft bed)* : 5010 pounds
-2014 Toyota Tundra CrewMax 4x2 with 4.6L V-8 (5.5-ft bed)*: 5335 pounds
*Toyota does not sell a CrewMax (largest cab available) with the 4.0L V-6

The new 2015 F-150 SuperCrew is also 210 pounds lighter than the Ford's lightest 2014 F-150, a base model, regular cab 4x2, which tips the scales at 4685 pounds (though not lighter than Chevrolet's smallest, regular cab 4x2 Silverado 1500 which weighs in at 4387 pounds.) Since we ran out of full-size pickups to compare it to, we dove into our testing archive and found ten cars that weigh more than the 2015 F-150 SuperCrew:

1. 2014 Porsche Panamera Turbo: 4510 pounds
2. 2014 Audi A8 L TDI AWD: 4529 pounds
3. 2015 Hyundai Genesis V-8: 4588 pounds (the Genesis V-6 AWD is only 2 pounds lighter than the 2015 F-150 SuperCrew at 4473 pounds)
4. 2015 Kia K900 V-8: 4624 pounds
5. 2014 Tesla Model S P85+: 4633 pounds
6. 2014 Maserati Ghibli AWD: 4648 pounds
7. 2014 Mercedes-Benz S550: 4786 pounds
8. 2014 Rolls-Royce Wraith: 5328 pounds
9. 2014 Rolls-Royce Ghost: 5500 pounds
10. 2014 Bentley Flying Spur W-12, AWD: 5644 pounds

Many on the list shouldn’t be a surprise. It’s not hard to see how ultra-high-end luxury barges from Bentley, Rolls-Royce, and Mercedes-Benz can outweigh the F-150, given the way these luxury brands swaddle their clientele in leather, wood, and precious metals. More surprising might be the curb weight of the Audi A8 L, since Audi pioneered aluminum-alloy construction with the original A8. The hefty curb weight of the Tesla Model S also comes as a bit of a shock, until you remember the Model S’ aluminum body rests atop 6381 lithium-ion laptop batteries. That an F-150 weighs less than a Porsche Panamera Turbo? Well, that is just silly.

So, the 2015 Ford F-150 apparently has a several-hundred-pound advantage over its truck competition and many large cars, but we will have to wait until we test it to determine whether such dramatic weight loss negatively impacts functionality, durability, or even a low base price. Stay tuned.

[motorhead]

It's a shame that they are so ugly. Who are the blind people that are designing trucks these days? First the new chevy now this. Dodge is the only hope we have left for a good looking truck. I did believe a lift and some larger tires would at least make the Ford look better. It's so disproportional looking as it sets. Hopefully they do something with the next Raptor to improve this.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by calebparkin3

Wow I'm surprised the STX and FXs are gone. I'm disappointed as the STX is the model I would go for since I don't need all the comforts in a truck I will put to work.

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

I too am surprised they dropped the STX and FX2/FX4 but kept both the King Ranch and Platinum. I am not sure I follow the logic.

Originally Posted by calebparkin3

It all comes down to more money in Fords pocket. They can charge more the the king ranch and platinum, and then add the cost in for the off road package. I will be in the market for a new truck soon. The STX was what I was going with, guess that's out. Looks like a Ram express is in my future.

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

That's what I find puzzling. Surely they sell way more work trucks tha Platinums. Enev at lower margins they would probably make more profit. Seems like they are giving up market share to GM and Dodge.

I agree on the STX, however the FX is still around, it is no longer its own model. It is an option package that can be added to the trims, which IMO is a good idea. I wanted a 14 FX4 because it offered me what I thought was the best looking truck in the Ford lineup, without having to go to a platinum. If I could have gotten the FX package on a XLT I would have gone that route

Originally Posted by big hammer

my word the new f150's are hideous.

Your opinion

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

So, you guys would shop elsewhere because your truck of choice won't have the vinyl decal you wanted on the bed? The names of some of the trims are all that's gone. Their content is now just packages within broader trims.

This^ they have just made the FX an option instead of its own model

Originally Posted by motorhead

It's a shame that they are so ugly. Who are the blind people that are designing trucks these days? First the new chevy now this. Dodge is the only hope we have left for a good looking truck. I did believe a lift and some larger tires would at least make the Ford look better. It's so disproportional looking as it sets. Hopefully they do something with the next Raptor to improve this.

again, your opinion. I think it looks fantastic. It's not as pretty as the new Sierra, which IMO is the best looking truck on the market, but in my eyes its a million times better than the Silverado.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by shaffe

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again, your opinion. I think it looks fantastic. It's not as pretty as the new Sierra, which IMO is the best looking truck on the market, but in my eyes its a million times better than the Silverado.

Yep...opinions...everyone's got em.

I think the new F-150 looks OK, or even good in some trims/colors, but bad in others.

I think the new Sierra is good looking, but not great. I actually really like the Silverado and don't really understand all the hate, but I know i'm in the minority there. Then again I see them everywhere around here so apparantly others like it too!

I think the Ram looks great too, and might very well be my favorite all around truck.

[King T]

Ford F-150 SFE Looks to Dethrone Ram as the MPG King

Chrysler struck a chord with buyers when it rolled out the fuel-sipping Ram 1500 EcoDiesel in February. The truck, which delivers 28mpg on the highway, filled its initial 8,000-unit order in a staggering three days, and now Ford is looking to the F-150 to vault the Blue Oval back to the top of the MPG pile.

For 2015, Ford is offering a special Super Fuel Economy package, or “SFE” for short, on the new aluminum-bodied F-150. Available on either XL or XLT models, the SFE aims to curb consumption thanks in part to the company’s newest V6 engine, a lightweight 2.7-liter twin-turbo featuring stop-start technology.

EPA figures haven’t been solidified for the SFE yet, however according to Automotive News, the new EcoBoost mill will produce 325-horsepower and 375 lb-ft of torque while allegedly surpassing Ford’s fuel economy targets. Is it enough to leapfrog the EcoDiesel? Time will tell, but Ford has more into the SFE than just a greener engine.

The company’s dealer guides indicate that the truck (in SFE trim) will come solely with 17-inch wheels – on the smaller side by full-size standards – designed to cut weight and rolling resistance. Also noteworthy is the dramatic 700-pound weight loss that the F-150 has endured in its shift to aluminum body panels for 2015.

It will be interesting to see how the MPG battle plays out over the next year; the Big 3 have all taken different strategies to improving fuel economy. Dodge has opted for active grille shutters, stop-start technology, and an eight-speed gearbox, while GM employs cylinder deactivation to boost its ratings. One thing is for certain, don’t expect an SFE Raptor anytime soon.

[King T]

Ford will offer Super Fuel Economy package on aluminum-bodied 2015 F-150

In an attempt to regain fuel economy crown, Ford will offer a special Super Fuel Economy (SFE) package on the 2015 F-150 featuring the aluminum body. Automotive News says that the Special Fuel Economy package will be offered on the XL model that uses the all-new 2.7-liter EcoBoost twin-turbo V6 engine equipped with stop-start technology.

The 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 engine generates 325 hp and 375 lb-ft (508 Nm) of torque. Still, in order to achieve the best fuel economy in its class, the 2015 Ford F-150 XL will be available only with 17-inch wheels (smallest in the big pickup segment) as it needs to reduce weight and rolling friction.

For those who don’t know, Chrysler already offers the High Fuel Economy (HFE) package on the Ram 1500, which is rated at 25 mpg highway, while the Ram EcoDiesel gets 28 mpg highway.

Ram obtains these numbers thanks to fuel-saving technologies such as active grille shutters, automatic air suspension system that lowers the vehicle at high speeds in order to improve aerodynamics, stop-start as well as an eight-speed automatic transmission.

The other rivals from GM, Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra, are rated at 24 mpg on the highway. In order to obtain this number, GM uses cylinder deactivation and already announced that it will add a new eight-speed automatic transmission as standard.