2015 Challenger Hellcat 707 HP

[archtaan]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

Suspension of disbelief. The SRT crowd is delirious from their joy.

1) any Joey can put on drag radial and cut a 10.85s 1/4 with a manual while high? No disrespect to Rawlings...love the show!
2) Dodge ran even faster times but hasn't released them?
3) We'll see 10's from the Hellcat on stock rubber?
4) ...from an inside source saying the real surprise is that it also out performed the GT500 and ZL1 on a road course.
5) are we still of the opinion it will avoid the gas guzzler tax?

Thanks for sharing all this with the Camaro community.

Looks like the price includes GG tax as well according to Motor trend and a few other websites.

[4VFTW]

Originally Posted by Muscle Car Lover

Still a badass car, love it really. But in the 70k range it's Vette time or GT-R.

yeah because whats another $30k. That must be what happens to people who drive M3's...they went out shopping for a Hyundai Elantra

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Mopar's current sales $ucce$$e$ are based on what, exactly? RAM pickups, and JEEP...NOT their car lines, and NOT the Challenger... 3,000 units, to a company the size of Fiat-Chrysler, is very small potatoes...and if those 3,000 generate another 5,000 units, still a mighty small number. Those combined ANNUAL units are what Mustang and Camaro each sell PER MONTH, roughly...

The car will be a mosquito bite, NOT a shark attack.

I agree completely. Can't argue facts. If it wasn't for jeep and Ram Chrysler would have been gone long ago.

[archtaan]

Originally Posted by 4VFTW

yeah because whats another $30k. That must be what happens to people who drive M3's...they went out shopping for a Hyundai Elantra

Yeah. GT-R STARTS at $101,770. (The only options are paint, cold weather and some interior goodies.) The Nismo is the one you want though.

The Z06 will probably start around $80,000. Hopefully the Z07 package is standard on this gen instead of a $7500 option. That ride is going to be insane. Cant wait to see them on the streets.

[Muscle Car Lover]

Originally Posted by archtaan

Yeah. GT-R STARTS at $101,770. (The only options are paint, cold weather and some interior goodies.) The Nismo is the one you want though.

The Z06 will probably start around $80,000. Hopefully the Z07 package is standard on this gen instead of a $7500 option. That ride is going to be insane. Cant wait to see them on the streets.

Honest, have not looked at GT-R's in a long time. 100k?
Buy a house instead, F that.

[archtaan]

Originally Posted by Muscle Car Lover

Honest, have not looked at GT-R's in a long time. 100k?
Buy a house instead, F that.

Its wild. Vipers are 100K, Vettes are 100K and GTRs are 100K. Pricing just keeps going up, up, up.

[macwest]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

So if someone does the same with a ZL1 and smokes the Hellcat we're equal? I can get a new ZL1 for $51k

New ZL1 MSRP is Over 56K. Hellcat is 59. If you can add enough mods with 3K congrats.

As for my comment You need to look at Lowdowns comments otherwise your comment on mine is out of context.

[LOWDOWN]

macwest, the point is GM did it and created a bona fide Z/28...not me, or you. Where's Mopar's Dodge Challenger T/A answer?

[crickets]

Making 2+ tons run like a hot scalpel through soft butter on Mulholland Dr. is a fool's bet. Easier to "pump up the jam" and go put the shivers in a Shelby...or a Chebbie...

707 hp!!!

NHRA vs. NASCAR. And who watches more of which?

Good Guys gave up on drag races, but my buddy Trent keeps VERY busy on GG weekends running the AutoX. Tell Sergio the market has changed...

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by macwest

New ZL1 MSRP is Over 56K. Hellcat is 59. If you can add enough mods with 3K congrats.

As for my comment You need to look at Lowdowns comments otherwise your comment on mine is out of context.

The ZL1 MSRP is $55,650 but new lot cars can be had for less than $52k. I just bought one for ~51,900 (0% financing) in April and felt I over paid when others post lower purchase price.

Interesting... Car and Driver just reported (4 hours ago) that the Hellcat with manual will have a base price of $60,990

http://blog.caranddriver.com/highway...tart-at-60990/

[72MachOne99GT]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Correct analysis...which begs the question, "Why ALL the hysteria?!" Talk about fanboyism...this is CLEARLY THE most extreme case, yet

aww come on...you cant be that big of a sour puss...

Theres a hooplah every time something new and cool comes out...

ford probably had the f body forums doubling as suicide help lines when the terminator came out, not to mention the man love everyone wanted to make with Colletti
The GT and c6Zo6 both created automotive porn addictions
The zl1 had everyone on this site moist
The announcement of the 13 shelby almost wrecked this place
The z/28 created more back patting circle jerks than I care to know about
And now this hellcat is bringing out the auto equivalent of Y2Kers

loosen up and enjoy the shit show. ..You'll have your laughs when the c7z06 bends everything over the proverbial bed and has a field day.

[ilirg]

MVP of this thread goes to LOW DOWN

[macwest]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

The ZL1 MSRP is $55,650 but new lot cars can be had for less than $52k. I just bought one for ~51,900 (0% financing) in April and felt I over paid when others post lower purchase price.

Interesting... Car and Driver just reported (4 hours ago) that the Hellcat with manual will have a base price of $60,990

http://blog.caranddriver.com/highway...tart-at-60990/

If I am correct that includes destination charge the other did not. No matter how you slice it a 700Hp car under factory warranty. I like it. My 2010 just about nothing is under warranty so if something goes I am on the tap to pay.

[DarkneSS]

I'm amazed they got this car done for $59k and supremely impressed. Dodge has officially whooped Ford and Chevy with this thing. This is now THE muscle car to have at that price range. In fact, is there any faster new car within even 20k of it? It looks great, will definitely cruise extremely smooth and runs TENSSSSS BONE STOCK WITH WARRANTY! I'm sorry but if you buy a ZL1/GT500 over this then you just don't get it.

No doubt Ford will have an answer for this maybe within a couple years. GM needs a Camaro answer that I suspect we won't get. Too much focus on handling that you'll never get to use on the street. My 99 Subaru Legacy wagon barely can go to its edge of handling on public roads. You'll never get a ZL1 there. I'd love to hear all about a ZL1 owners track times from a football field away in a Hellcat. Wake up GM, release the kraken and make a 800hp camaro, seriously. Then just take the 1LE concept and rename it to Z28, bang.

Looks like a SS or 5.0 remain the best mid level buy but for the high level cars the Hellcat very easily dominates.

[Todd in Vancouver]

Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

aww come on...you cant be that big of a sour puss...

Theres a hooplah every time something new and cool comes out...

ford probably had the f body forums doubling as suicide help lines when the terminator came out, not to mention the man love everyone wanted to make with Colletti
The GT and c6Zo6 both created automotive porn addictions
The zl1 had everyone on this site moist
The announcement of the 13 shelby almost wrecked this place
The z/28 created more back patting circle jerks than I care to know about
And now this hellcat is bringing out the auto equivalent of Y2Kers

loosen up and enjoy the shit show. ..You'll have your laughs when the c7z06 bends everything over the proverbial bed and has a field day.

In truth do I like the Hellcat, Hell Ya! Do I want to take one down the strip and smoke tires and turn fast ET's, for sure. Could I live with it everyday? Probably not.

I'm not taking anything away from it but let's be real, anyone with a ZL1 or GT500 can pulley swap, tune, CAI and be there. IMHO, I feel the same way about the GT500 against my ZL, if I add a CAI and take my car psi to 14 as well I'm going to be right there or at least it'll be a drivers race. Most people don't buy a car on a single metric so while it may defer some sales I really don't see it having a huge impact and I'm looking forward to the competition.