the Amaro???

[CaptianSam]

no not a car... but the new 'apparent' dollar... search some vids on google...
they are attempting to unify the peso, american, and canadian dollar to be the amaro... much like the euro... this is part of the rockefeller plan, for "social security"... putting a chip inside you for security purposes... which is debatable... p[rivacy is lost.... and credit cards and license's will be on your finger... this is very bad for many reason... and PEOPLE will demand this "security" because of 911, and other such things... people want to feel "safe"...

... can you say, secret society? or how about, skull and bones, free masons, ...Order of the Bull's Blood, Mystical Seven Society, The Order of Gimghoul , Burning Spear, and Machine ... illuminati...blah blah blah... fact or fiction... either way...

while im on this...
o'sama bin laden... is a 6'8" man on a dialysis machine... trained by the us... and funded by the us... with the us's technology... do you you really think we couldn't find him??... they can find me picking my nose...
something is fishy and underneath all the foundation is un-settling smoke that is always re-arranging...

just something to think about...

but how close is amaro... to Camaro lol

[The_Blur]

While I agree with the ever-increasing need for security, I have thorough concerns with the conspiracy theory your proposed. It's unsettling to think that we have a corrupt administration, but it's fairly clear at this point after the last pair of elections that Bush is not even a good Republican, and 2 out of 3 Americans totally disapprove of his actions to date. Basically, he's a miserable president in comparison to the so many adequate or great presidents in history. At the same time, I'm absolutely certain that Bush does not intend to endanger Americans deliberately. In other words, he wouldn't let bin Laden escape if he knew where to find him. Besides, finding bin Laden would restore faith in his administration. In other words, bin Laden may be trained by Americans to fight the Russians, but he isn't being helped anymore.

EDIT: I understand that this post is controversial. As a moderate political science student, I intend to only bring facts and critical input to the debate. I understand that loyal Republicans do not appreciate criticism when it comes to the top office. I do not intend to verbally assault the Republican Party or it's members as a whole, just George W. Bush's record.

[TAG UR IT]

The money will never be combined. Dies will have to be made. Who will keep them. Agreement won't be made. Everyone will get their own. Counterfeiting will run rampant. Won't work. Period.

Osama? I see what you are saying. But, I don't think our gov't would let such a crazed person like that run loose. I still can't believe they didn't just wipe out the entire town of 300 to get Osama. 300? Or, 30,000...or 300,000.....deaths, that is.

[swazworth]

wow-> i glad that word is finally getting out on some of this stuff. i have known about the Amaro for around a year or so. if you do a search on this board i'm sure that you can find some other times we have discussed this.

the only 2 videos i have seen that make me wonder if it is true or not, are the Fox video i have put a link to in on the super highway thread. there is another one i would link to if i could get on youtube. it's a guy talking about it on cnbc. you can look it up.

[TheMadHatter99]

Looks like someone forgot their tin-foil hat today.

[CaptianSam]

it has been speculated that bush and bin laden are from the same "brother-hood"... ...

the only to presidents to upset the rule of 4... have been bush and bush jr.,... every forth president ... gets killed... except followers of this special society...

this is all specualtion... someone has got an incredible imagination... but lets ask ourselfs...
what can we really believe... how will we ever know...

[chadrcr]

Originally Posted by CaptianSam

it has been speculated that bush and bin laden are from the same "brother-hood"... ...

the only to presidents to upset the rule of 4... have been bush and bush jr.,... every forth president ... gets killed... except followers of this special society...

this is all specualtion... someone has got an incredible imagination... but lets ask ourselfs...
what can we really believe... how will we ever know...

One out of every four gets killed......? 43 Presidents, 10 plus killed??? hmmm...

Four presidents killed in office:
Abraham Lincoln
James A. Garfield
William McKinley
John F. Kennedy
there have been several ATTEMPTS....

[Muscle Master]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

The money will never be combined. Dies will have to be made. Who will keep them. Agreement won't be made. Everyone will get their own. Counterfeiting will run rampant. Won't work. Period.

Osama? I see what you are saying. But, I don't think our gov't would let such a crazed person like that run loose. I still can't believe they didn't just wipe out the entire town of 300 to get Osama. 300? Or, 30,000...or 300,000.....deaths, that is.

your proving osama's point about america lol

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by Muscle Master

your proving osama's point about america lol

Actually, that's exactly what these fundamentalists think about us. They think we value life as long as its our kind. That's pure hypocrisy. They have as much value as we do. Osama is one rogue scum bag with a large fundamentalist backing. Killing him won't end all fundamentalism. We've made him this great figure who leads a crusade against us. He's just one terrorist, and he wants to be a martyr for his cause. The scariest fact about him is how replaceable he is.

[TAG UR IT]

Originally Posted by Muscle Master

your proving osama's point about america lol

Please.... My point is that Osama doesn't care WHO he kills...just as long as he GETS TO KILL. That's what striking terrorism into the hearts of people means. And then...then, to bring down an economy. There's a point to where we have to ask ourselves how many is too many. In other words, would you kill 300 to save 300,000? Some people argue that killing just one person is one too many. Others will say that killing 1,000 is fine...and so on. But, Osama was found...years ago...CIA supposedly had found him in a town of 300 innocents. Bush didn't "pull the trigger" (by dropping one big @ss bomb) becuase the loss of innocent life was too great...by his standards. Eventually, Islamic Jihad will come to America, it will take thousands upon thousands of lives...it's going to be bad. Unless, we can SECURE our boarders perfectly and keep tallies on ALL terrorist related people here 24/7.

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Actually, that's exactly what these fundamentalists think about us. They think we value life as long as its our kind. That's pure hypocrisy. They have as much value as we do. Osama is one rogue scum bag with a large fundamentalist backing. Killing him won't end all fundamentalism. We've made him this great figure who leads a crusade against us. He's just one terrorist, and he wants to be a martyr for his cause. The scariest fact about him is how replaceable he is.

Yep...but the money isn't as easily replaceable. Unless they got something w/ his cash uip his sleeve.

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Actually, that's exactly what these fundamentalists think about us. They think we value life as long as its our kind. That's pure hypocrisy. They have as much value as we do. Osama is one rogue scum bag with a large fundamentalist backing. Killing him won't end all fundamentalism. We've made him this great figure who leads a crusade against us. He's just one terrorist, and he wants to be a martyr for his cause. The scariest fact about him is how replaceable he is.

Perfectly accurate post.



I sitill want his ass. Dead or alive I don't care.

[DGthe3]

Warning: long off topic post. might want to skip ahead. And please, keep my signature in mind.

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Please.... My point is that Osama doesn't care WHO he kills...just as long as he GETS TO KILL. That's what striking terrorism into the hearts of people means. And then...then, to bring down an economy. There's a point to where we have to ask ourselves how many is too many. In other words, would you kill 300 to save 300,000? Some people argue that killing just one person is one too many. Others will say that killing 1,000 is fine...and so on. But, Osama was found...years ago...CIA supposedly had found him in a town of 300 innocents. Bush didn't "pull the trigger" (by dropping one big @ss bomb) becuase the loss of innocent life was too great...by his standards. Eventually, Islamic Jihad will come to America, it will take thousands upon thousands of lives...it's going to be bad. Unless, we can SECURE our boarders perfectly and keep tallies on ALL terrorist related people here 24/7.


Yep...but the money isn't as easily replaceable. Unless they got something w/ his cash uip his sleeve.

You cannot fully secure your borders. You don't have only the mexican border to think about. there are a few thousand miles of Canadian border too. And even more coastline. Ports are extremely unsecuure. Not everything can be inspected. Not all airports have top notch security systems. People become lazy and inattentive when searching and finding nothing. Passports are easy to fake, even fancy ones. Most terrorist attacks against the US (at home and abroad) have been conducted by citizens of that particular country.

The thing about fighting terrorisim is that no system designed by humans is perfect. There is always a drawback, a compromise. Its not an enemy that can be stoped by killing all of them. They have to no longer want to fight you. That is why Iraq isn't going too well, Afghanistan is doing a bit better but its not anywhere close to a self sustaining country. I support our troups, Canadian, Americian, Brits, and everyone else laying their lives on the line for everyones freedom. But when a terrorist (a freedom fighter according to the other guys) is killed, what does his brother think? or his son? Will they accept that he was a bad man and should never have fought for his country or beliefs? None of us do when it happens to our soldiers. Over there, the families of the fallen take up arms to avenge the deaths, and I would do the same thing if they killed one of my brothers. Kill 1 terrorist and you create 2 freedom fighters. Then there is the issue of civilian casualties. A smart bomb will almost always hit its target, but who says that target is accurate? then theres the ones that go off course. And of course there are false reports as well, "The evil Americans blew up a school today" could have been a terrorist training facility or one filled with innocent children. But what it actually was makes no differance. If people think it could have been children, the damage has been done regardless of the facts.

Its not all bad, there are schools and hospitals and lots of other good things being built. Our soldiers are helping the people. But human nature is such that we often forget about good things and focus on bad things. So if you just built a hospital that saves 10 lives a day, that won't make up for killing 10 people in combat. To win people to your side you have to provide them with something more attractive than what the other guy is giving. Problem is, a school and clean drinking water isn't as nice as a place in heaven with Allah.

As I said earlier, there is only 1 way to fight terrorism: make them no longer wish to fight you. 2 ways to do that, make them like you or make them fear you. If the US had invaded Iraq and used everything they had, the war would be over. And by everything I mean nukes too. If there is a terrorist stronghold, wipe it off the map. All that stuff about kill 1 terrorist make 2 freedom fighters doesn't apply when everyones gone. Its a brutal, heartless, cold blooded way but thats how its always been done. Stop the uprising by burning down the village. After a while, nobody will want the same fate.

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Warning: long off topic post. might want to skip ahead. And please, keep my signature in mind.

You cannot fully secure your borders. You don't have only the mexican border to think about. there are a few thousand miles of Canadian border too. And even more coastline. Ports are extremely unsecuure. Not everything can be inspected. Not all airports have top notch security systems. People become lazy and inattentive when searching and finding nothing. Passports are easy to fake, even fancy ones. Most terrorist attacks against the US (at home and abroad) have been conducted by citizens of that particular country.

The thing about fighting terrorisim is that no system designed by humans is perfect. There is always a drawback, a compromise. Its not an enemy that can be stoped by killing all of them. They have to no longer want to fight you. That is why Iraq isn't going too well, Afghanistan is doing a bit better but its not anywhere close to a self sustaining country. I support our troups, Canadian, Americian, Brits, and everyone else laying their lives on the line for everyones freedom. But when a terrorist (a freedom fighter according to the other guys) is killed, what does his brother think? or his son? Will they accept that he was a bad man and should never have fought for his country or beliefs? None of us do when it happens to our soldiers. Over there, the families of the fallen take up arms to avenge the deaths, and I would do the same thing if they killed one of my brothers. Kill 1 terrorist and you create 2 freedom fighters. Then there is the issue of civilian casualties. A smart bomb will almost always hit its target, but who says that target is accurate? then theres the ones that go off course. And of course there are false reports as well, "The evil Americans blew up a school today" could have been a terrorist training facility or one filled with innocent children. But what it actually was makes no differance. If people think it could have been children, the damage has been done regardless of the facts.

Its not all bad, there are schools and hospitals and lots of other good things being built. Our soldiers are helping the people. But human nature is such that we often forget about good things and focus on bad things. So if you just built a hospital that saves 10 lives a day, that won't make up for killing 10 people in combat. To win people to your side you have to provide them with something more attractive than what the other guy is giving. Problem is, a school and clean drinking water isn't as nice as a place in heaven with Allah.

As I said earlier, there is only 1 way to fight terrorism: make them no longer wish to fight you. 2 ways to do that, make them like you or make them fear you. If the US had invaded Iraq and used everything they had, the war would be over. And by everything I mean nukes too. If there is a terrorist stronghold, wipe it off the map. All that stuff about kill 1 terrorist make 2 freedom fighters doesn't apply when everyones gone. Its a brutal, heartless, cold blooded way but thats how its always been done. Stop the uprising by burning down the village. After a while, nobody will want the same fate.

He's spot-on. It is impossible to close the borders completely. Take a look at Britain, a relatively secure island. The terrorist attack in London was not a consequence of bad border patrols but instead people who legitimately entered the country. In America's case, all 19 hijackers had visas if I remember correctly. Even if they didn't, assuming my memory is way off, they still got onto Union soil.

The real way to stop terrorist organizations is to stop them from wanting to fight. At the same time, it is impossible to stop all acts of terrorism. Anyone could make a bomb. How many of us saw FIght Club? They made bombs with soap leftovers. Most people wouldn't dare do something so violent, but there are always those who break the rule.

I think we all support our soldiers overseas. The problem is that we aren't seeking the appropriate political solutions. We aren't even asking the right question of those we help: how can we help? Sure we can build them a hospital and some schools, but they already have some of those things. A lot of people forget how well off some countries are without American aid. We brought down a regime that should never have been there. Maybe its time to go. Maybe we can help ourselves better by not helping at all right now.